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Postby flytothestars » Wed May 21, 2008 9:31 am

TBC mentioned that he was destroyed because he is savaging everyone at the farm. and now i came across this

http://thoroughbredtimes.com/breeding-n ... nized.aspx

it says differently

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Postby Gerry » Wed May 21, 2008 12:50 pm

Sounds like they are having a necropsy done at the University of Florida and I dont think they would have one done if he was euthanized for being nasty.

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Postby FOS » Wed May 21, 2008 12:54 pm

hi Gerry

Gerry wrote:Sounds like they are having a necropsy done at the University of Florida and I dont think they would have one done if he was euthanized for being nasty.

If there is insurance in play...a necropsy is likely required by underwriters.

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Postby Equipoise28 » Wed May 21, 2008 1:25 pm

“He was so miserable because of the pain that he was actually destroying himself. He was miserable to himself and to the world."

If he was in that much pain, no wonder he was trying to savage people.

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Postby helen in FL » Wed May 21, 2008 1:39 pm

Poor baby. :(

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Postby Gerry » Wed May 21, 2008 1:42 pm

hi FOS

I can understand that but I would think that the necropsy would have to show an issue if it was just being done for insurance. I am willing to stand corrected :-)

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Postby henthorn » Wed May 21, 2008 4:28 pm

He sounds like a worst-case scenario for such spinal problems. Many humans also have damaged spinal cord and nerves that cause great pain. But there are remedies that make sense for easing the condition for humans: Intraspinal morphine pumps, high doses of oral or transdermal meds for pain, and sometimes nerve stimulation therapies to override the nerve's own pain production as much as feasible. Many of these folks wish someone could put them out of their misery as well.

But the costs and effects would be "inhumane" in horses.
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Postby Mahubah » Wed May 21, 2008 4:42 pm

When I visited Hidden Point last January, they wouldn't bring Three Wonders out. I did see him in his stall, and he was muzzled and tied up short, so I'd say his disposition was none too sweet even then.
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Postby Crystal » Thu May 22, 2008 6:15 am

Holy Crap! They called us about standing him... wow dodged that bullet.

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Postby Patuxet » Thu May 22, 2008 3:55 pm

I too saw him in January as described by Mahubah. The explanation was along the lines that he was acting like the breeding season was already here. I assumed that meant he was being too studish for his own good.

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Postby Gerry » Thu May 22, 2008 6:56 pm

Why the heck do they tie them short in a stall...that drives me crazy. A horse needs exercise, at least allow them to walk around in the stall. When I picked up our Seattle Slew son he was in short cross ties. He was so happy the first day I turned him out and he could run and play. Its no wonder they get nasty

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Postby Mahubah » Fri May 23, 2008 5:57 pm

It was the farm's open house. I suspect they didn't want him trying to go for an unwary visitor, muzzle and all...always the possibility, too, that he might have been smart enough to try to find some way to scrape the muzzle off. Some horses are remarkable escape artists.
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Postby Gerry » Fri May 23, 2008 6:58 pm

Thanks Mahubah..that does make sense. I am just amazed at the number of "mean" stallions that I have seen that are not allowed out to exercise or are kept tied short in their stalls

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Postby Pacific Classic » Mon May 26, 2008 8:02 am

Of course, a necropsy is always required on an insured horse. I heard they are expecting to find a tumor - probably in the brain. His savage behavior led up to an inability to maintain his balance, etc. The necropsy - whether released or not, should tell the story. Too bad - he could have been a nice horse.

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Postby adrienne » Wed May 28, 2008 4:56 pm

All stallions are different. When I managed TBs...

I had a stallion pen that was a large paddock with a large run-in shed. Tough Call lived in there until he had to have surgery (hernia) and we found out while he was on recuperative stall rest that he LOVED being inside. A large foaling stall with 15-20 minutes in a grassy paddock during the day was more than enough to make him happy. He gained TONS of weight and his attitude really, really improved. As I said 'he's now more like a really dangerous gelding than a really dangerous stallion' lol.

While Tough Call was in, we threw Composer out in that paddock and while he never had much of an attitude problem, you would have thought he won the lottery, he LOVED living out 24/7.

The interesting thing is that Composer's racing career was MUCH longer than Tough Call's. If anything, a horse with a 9 year-40 start career would become more accustomed to the stall life.

In this case though, sounds like this poor guy would never have been happy. :(