Louis's Blog on Inbreeding

[louis finochio]

Colts that are from inbred female families will resemble a filly more than a colt.

Filly's that are from male families will resemble a colt with a big frame and a colts head.

Great to observe these patterns of nature, as that is what keeps us young.

[parlo]

I guess, you can't give a solid definition, what a "inbreed female family" or a "male family" is.

What will you do to prove these new revolutionary thesis of yours?
Will you post pictures of horses at PQ?
How can we be sure that the horses on the pictures are the horses you give names to us?


Better take a ride on a bike - 2 hours a day at least - that will keep you really young and give your brain and your heart some oxygen.

[louis finochio]

those fashion matings have crossed the pond, and those veterans Euro trainers are scratching their heads, as to why those fashion breds are falling apart. I have seen too many unraced thoroughbreds in Europe vs 30 years ago when those fashion breds were non existence.

[Tucumcari]

Hey Louis, we going for the world's longest thread here??? This just might make it. Anyone know what the longest thread in forum history might be?
Congrats on keepin it going!!!

[louis finochio]

what is the difference between male and female thoroughbred families. Why does 1 need to know which is which before starting to cultivate 1 or the other?

In most of these cases I discovered for myself that the buyer was not given due regard for the sex of the inbred family he is trying to introduce as a cross. What matters is not the sex of the actual performance but that of its inbred ancestral line. In other words, the sex excellence of the champion is subject only to the sex dominance of the family that produced it.

note whether the stallion who breeds all daughters but no sons, or a preponderance of the former. The stallion who sires both sons and daughters but only go daughters or vice versa only the sons excel in racing performance. The mare whose direct progeny are no great shakes as racers but whose grandchildren Excel.

To continue.

[louis finochio]

My blood it TB, thats why I keep my nose to the grindstone, much more to come, unless they pull the plug on this thread. LOL, Louis.

[Shammy Davis]

Louis posted:

. . . Great to observe these patterns of nature, as that is what keeps us young.

I've been telling my wife this for years. She always reminds me that if I would eat more fiber my patterns of nature would be more regular. Who would of guessed.

Parlo posted:

. . . Better take a ride on a bike - 2 hours a day at least - that will keep you really young and give your brain and your heart some oxygen.

Uggggh.

[Shammy Davis]

Tucumcari asked:

Hey Louis, we going for the world's longest thread here???

Louis replied:

. . . unless they pull the plug on this thread. LOL, Louis.

Louis asked:

. . . what is the difference between male and female . . ?

Tucumcari posted:

. . . Anyone know . . ?

Parlo posted:

. . . I guess, you can't give a solid definition . . .

xfactor fan suggested:

. . . Louis, you might try . . .

Louis posted:

. . . those veterans Euro trainers are scratching their heads . . .

Bill from WA posted:

I can't accept his conclusions. Everyone is entitled to their own viewpoint . . .

Louis concluded:

We must be really narrow minded . . .

[louis finochio]

Bill: When one sits in front of a computer, one cannot see the re-shaping of the breed. I have been watching these conformation changes for many years, & i can truthfully say these Tb of today are an imatation of the past Tb.

I made this remark to trainer Ron Mc nally, & he said you mean your just finding this out.

[Bill from WA]

Hi Louis

I had the full responibility for my first horse in 1937. I went to my first thoroughbred horserace in 1949. I bought my first racehorse at auction in 1967. I haven't been just sitting in front of a computer for all those years. I have been actively involved for a very long time. We just happen to disagree on a few things, and I believe that many of the points you are raising have been batted around for years without a real solution. The economics of horse racing have changed a great deal since the "good old days" ... whenever they were.

Respectfully,

Bill

[louis finochio]

A breeder must take notice of the crosses introduced by the ace breeders and look up their ancestry. make note whether the breeder users stallions for fillies for his new introductions. What are you likely to discover? The owner of a female family uses stallions for crosses where as the male family uses mostly mares. Recognize and distinguish 1 family from the other by noting to which side the breeder is inbreeding, whether to female or male ancestors.

To continue.

[louis finochio]

Yesterday I had lunch with trainer Henry Moreno, he tokd me he claimed the filly Aspidistra for $5000.00 Aspidistra produced 4 SW & the champions Dr. Fager & Ta Wee.

[louis finochio]

Last year we had 1 horse dance in every TC race Curlin, with an outcross pedigree. This year we have Big Brown who will run in every TC race congrats to both breeders for avoiding those fashion bred matings that produced many also rans that cant dance every dance of the TC.

If both TB stay sound & meet in the BC, it will be a great day for Tb racing.

[louis finochio]

In my opinion that in most instances readers will not be conscious of deliberately developing either a male or female family. their breeding patterns will have developed as a result of trial and error, allied to personal preferences so that the concentration is on either sex.

I once asked the owner of a female family Y he doted on mares for breeding and racing, he said I seem to do better with them although I sometimes come up with a colt. I've talked to another breeder also kept an inbred female family and I found he had introduced a stallion from the above breeder.

do not read this as indicating that the owners of female family is to not race males successfully, or vice versa, as this would not be true. What I am trying to stress is that the inbred families are divisible into 2 sexes and that from a briefing point of view it is necessary for want to know what it is 1 is cultivating.

to continue.

[louis finochio]

In my opinion that in most instances readers will not be conscious of deliberately developing either a male or female family. their breeding patterns will have developed as a result of trial and error, allied to personal preferences so that the concentration is on either sex.

I once asked the owner of a female family Y he doted on mares for breeding and racing, he said I seem to do better with them although I sometimes come up with a colt. I've talked to another breeder also kept an inbred female family and I found he had introduced a stallion from the above breeder.

do not read this as indicating that the owners of female family is to not race males successfully, or vice versa, as this would not be true. What I am trying to stress is that the inbred families are divisible into 2 sexes and that from a briefing point of view it is necessary for want to know what it is 1 is cultivating.

to continue.