Fool's Gold = Big Brown aka "FLOP"

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Fool's Gold = Big Brown aka "FLOP"

Postby NorthernDaylily » Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:52 am

I can't remember ever enjoying watching a Belmont more.... I called it right on. But that's easy to say posting after the fact... this my first post on this venue. Yet those watching along could verify my hooting and hollering.. (surely NOT wanting any harm to the horse)... just a huge 'egg on the face' of the whole sham event. Like an old friend always said.. 'talk is cheap.. it's takes real money to buy oats that ain't been thru the horse once. Oats once passed are much cheaper.........'.

Big "FLOP" Brown is just another pimple on the face of this SAD corporate horse racing game. Thinking it over.. I suspect this paper horse being compared to Secretariat irritated me the most. What a fool's lie.. just this idiocy of the ratings game press to herd the naive public along... more ratings points.. the same empty money game. Makes me wonder how many of the viewers watching this ABC network hype understood how foolish they looked after the facts were laid down. Then they peddled the McKay death.... switching gears to appear more grounded although it didn't come off. Moronic TV is just that... pitiful to watch.... if one has a dab of sense.

"FLOP" won't run again.. only to a breeding shed where the stooopid money is gathered. The horse has proven nothing... his net worth... towards breeding a sound, durable thoroughbred racer. Running against something like a Curlin is out of the question.... with the millions already evaporating into thin air via the Belmont that "FLOP" ran. Even stooopid money is cognizant of obvious facts.... "FLOP"... isn't. Yet the most naive will use him.. their likes will buy into that game.. until.. we do the RIGHT THING.

? is that......

BAN ALL DRUGS in racing.... for the horse's entire life. ALL OF THEM.... nothing allowed. Nothing else is acceptable.... propping up inferior genetics has to stop.. NOW.

Horse racing in the US is a shadow of what it once was. It deserves better.. it deserves a bright future. Drug free.. horses racing horses.. the house cleaing needs to start NOW...........................

[ I mean not to flame the horse per sey.... it's the environment "FLOP" is created in that needs to be shown the door ]

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Postby larrygene » Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:29 am

Northerndaylily, its obvious you do not own a racehorse!!!! So your opinion and thoughts are worth about the same as those "once passed oats!!!!

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Postby Barbaro06 » Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:37 am

I remember this about opinions:

"Opinions are like farts, they all stink except your own."

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A horse gallops with his lungs
Perseveres with his heart
And wins with his character. --Tesio

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Postby ratherrapid » Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:47 am

Neverthless, does the poster articulate a majority view? I'd be interested to hear where the post is wrong.

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Postby NorthernDaylily » Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:48 am

True enough... on both counts.

But only a blind fool would argue with my bottom dollar.

ALL DRUGS.. EVERYTHING. BANNED.. NOW.. ASAP>>>>>>>>>>>

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Postby larrygene » Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:58 am

Enough said!!!! :wink:

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Postby aardvark » Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:55 pm

Nothing they do with the horse at this point will matter. They will receive criticism every direction they turn. If he retires, I hope he is a good stud. If he races some more, I hope that a measure of redemption can be earned.

I am waiting for the geld him poll.

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Postby ageecee » Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:18 pm

[quote="aardvark"]Nothing they do with the horse at this point will matter. They will receive criticism every direction they turn. If he retires, I hope he is a good stud. If he races some more, I hope that a measure of redemption can be earned.

I am waiting for the geld him poll.[/quote]




I think one person on here wanted him gelded along time ago

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Postby NorthernDaylily » Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:55 pm

"Nothing they do with the horse at this point will matter. They will receive criticism every direction they turn"

Do you really think they care? I mean.. down deep in that pocketbook mentality.. their only real concern is profits.

Why the rush to grab that 50 Mil before he ran the entire Triple Crown??

I believe now we see why............ proving the horse is irelevant so long as the $$ is green. Hence.. the reason this game needs real CHANGE.

"FLOP" is a nice lookin' animal.. no question. But.. beauty is only SKIN DEEP...

"FLOP" is the product of good chemical management.. some luck & corporate press.. and very poor competition. Welcome to 21st century "horse racing".

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Postby Des » Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:45 pm

As the word of that great song goes.......

"And a Monday Morning Quarterback Never........................."


Will someone please complete the words for me

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Postby NorthernDaylily » Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:51 pm

.........IS NEVER WRONG.

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Postby HorseChick » Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:04 am

larrygene wrote:Northerndaylily, its obvious you do not own a racehorse!!!! So your opinion and thoughts are worth about the same as those "once passed oats!!!!


I'm not an owner either but I follow the boards because of my love of the sport AND the breed.

I've been a lurker here for quite a while now just absorbing words and knowledge about pedigrees. I don't know near enough to speak with any authority on many of the subjects posted upon but I do know more then the casual racing fan.

It seems that many here lament the loss of those casual fans and their dollars at the betting window. I can tell you that while the OP may not be an owner there are many of those casual fans who feel as she does.

I know that BB had an off day and just got beat. I don't think he is a flop but I don't think he's a great horse either.

I wasn't rooting for him to win the TC for many of the same reasons that other owners here have stated.

I too am sick of the Big Business mind set of this sport. Not to mention greed of hurrying the studs off to the breeding shed before giving the racing public a chance to really come to know a horse and value his accomplishments.

The widespread drug use is another bone of contention for those many of those same bettors and casual fans, as well. It's a turn off. It was, to me, when Sir Barton ran and it still is today.

I find it sad that because one is not an owner they are somehow lesser in your eyes and their opinion has no weight or value to you.

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Postby dray33 » Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:13 am

I am an owner. I have a rather simplistic view of this. Ban nothing. Regulate everything. Make the law clear, the punishment severe... and stay one step ahead of the cheaters.

I have said this before... If you are using steroids to enhance performance, THAT is cheating... and no longer allowed. If a horse is lackluster, or having a problem that steroids can help with... use them all you like. OFF THE TRACK. You can't have it both ways. It's either time off, or not. It's either race cleanly, or get the boot.

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Postby HorseChick » Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:19 am

dray33 wrote:I am an owner. I have a rather simplistic view of this. Ban nothing. Regulate everything. Make the law clear, the punishment severe... and stay one step ahead of the cheaters.

I have said this before... If you are using steroids to enhance performance, THAT is cheating... and no longer allowed. If a horse is lackluster, or having a problem that steroids can help with... use them all you like. OFF THE TRACK. You can't have it both ways. It's either time off, or not. It's either race cleanly, or get the boot.


I can agree with this Dray. I agree that drugs are helpful and even necessary. If the horse needs drugs, give it time off and as you state, race cleanly.

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a flop?

Postby joe horn » Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:53 am

I would hardly call Any horse winning two of the biggest races in the sport a flop! man what the hells wrong with you? how can you post with your head stuck so far up your a$$