Yikes! Rose Gets Six Month Suspension

dray33 · Postby **dray33** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:59 pm

wilf wrote:I think that the punishment is way out of line with the crime,when big stables are given hand slaps for using powerful painkillers time and again and performance enhancing drugs are used with abandon in this country.

His punishment is fair, for once. But I agree, punishment falls far short everywhere else. Maybe since eyes are upon them, they are policing themselves, and JR came under fire at the wrong time.

zinn21 · Postby **zinn21** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:27 am

I'd say whipping a horse over the eye subsequently causing her to hemmorage and a trip to New Bolton, by accident or by design merits six months and payment of vet related expenses...

pfrsue · Postby **pfrsue** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:26 pm

Maybe I'm not interpreting this right, but although I certainly saw the filly lugging in, I thought it looked like she corrected herself and had started running straight again for two or three strides before he hit her with the whip.

Am I not seeing it right?

steward · Postby **steward** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:55 pm

dray33 wrote:Well that's all a bit too heavy for me, I'm about 4 fingers deep into a nice single malt... so I will just add: there's a wind a blowin', and no amount of excuses or posturing is going to hide the excesses of our past. Three decades of abuse is about to come to a screeching halt, and if it takes the government to do it, we deserve every bit of what we get. You seem like an old school kinda cat, so you know the lesson of reaping what you sew (sic). I agree with you about the media, but the truth is, in the case of "thugs and drugs", it's a loose cannon about to be aimed right up our collective arse. And it will force the change that has been too long accepted.

There's a wind blowing, alright, and it's causing smoke to come out of your behind. "Three decades of abuse" is an exaggeration that amounts to a hill of beans.

This is a political witchhunt by partisans and other forces who want to take down the sport permanently. Bowing to their demands on this goaround will do nothing to stop their mission. The media is in a feeding frenzy stimulated by an accident for which their is no prevention or even amelioration. The case against drugs is as weak as the case against drugs used by humans advanced by healers, herbalists, organic radicals and other such freaks. And as scientific as the case against GMOs: non-existent.

dray33 · Postby **dray33** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:37 am

So they should all just shut up and allow the sport to go on as it has for years? I guess the sport of horse racing was all fine before these loudmouths started ruining everything. Steroids, EPO, Bute, Lasix, all the medications are the accepted norm, the effects of their use amount to a hill of beans. Stop trying to fix things, there is nothing to fix? Not buying it. Maybe it is a witch hunt, steward. Maybe we have witches in the game, that need to be hunted. Either way, what's happening now has the potential to fix a lot of what ails us. You obviously don't think we have a problem. Personally, I think we need an intervention, because we are too corrupt to help ourselves.

Nancy T · Postby **Nancy T** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:37 am

How about banning whips...

madelyn · Postby **madelyn** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:14 am

Oh for heaven's sake. The shoulder is NOWHERE NEAR the head. I rode racing QH's for a while and even on those short-necked, dumpy horses you couldn't hit the head if you were aiming for the shoulder. He need to tell the TRUTH. Six months is fair.

This sport needs to be really careful about knee jerk reactions. Banning whips because of Jeremy Rose would be a sophomoric knee jerk reaction. It is unsafe to ride without a whip.

horsenuts · Postby **horsenuts** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:45 am

madelyn wrote:Oh for heaven's sake. The shoulder is NOWHERE NEAR the head. I rode racing QH's for a while and even on those short-necked, dumpy horses you couldn't hit the head if you were aiming for the shoulder. He need to tell the TRUTH. Six months is fair.

This sport needs to be really careful about knee jerk reactions. Banning whips because of Jeremy Rose would be a sophomoric knee jerk reaction. It is unsafe to ride without a whip.

I agree with you on this Madelyn. Rose 'lost it' and committed a serious infraction and I believe he knows as much and knew he had done a SERIOUS WRONG from the get go and why he was so apologetic upon returning to unsaddle the filly. 6 months is very harsh but Rose may be the wiser upon returning.

Now, if racing would start handing out the same type punsihment for trainers who are habitual committers of infractions while not fearing much in the way of reprimand things might start to turn around for the sport. I can think of two trainers who need at least 6 months in the penalty box and a year is probably more apropo.

Sock Monkey · Postby **Sock Monkey** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:14 am

madelyn wrote:This sport needs to be really careful about knee jerk reactions. Banning whips because of Jeremy Rose would be a sophomoric knee jerk reaction. It is unsafe to ride without a whip.

Very well said.

dray33 · Postby **dray33** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:31 pm

horsenuts wrote: Now, if racing would start handing out the same type punsihment for trainers who are habitual committers of infractions while not fearing much in the way of reprimand things might start to turn around for the sport. I can think of two trainers who need at least 6 months in the penalty box and a year is probably more apropo.

You're right of course... but I would BET this was said about a bajillion times about 30 years ago. And 20. And 10.