Who would you breed this mare to... Officer Cherrie

[BlazingColours]

This has been a long one in the making. Officer Cherrie has arrived at our farm and we have secured a breeding lease on her for the 2009 season. She is a graded stakes winner and earned over $250,000. She has given us many thrills as a race horse. Winning 3 races and being nominated for 2 year old filly of the year in Canada.

Now begins the search for the right stallion to cross her to. She will likely be heading to KY come breeding season but for now will live amongst our other TB and WB mares (used for sport horse breeding) Breeding race horses is a new chapter in our book and what a great mare we have to start out with.

Here are a few articles about her

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/racing ... s-win.aspx

http://www.taylormadestallions.com/hors ... o-blossom/


And her pedigree http://www.pedigreequery.com/officer+cherrie

So which stallion would you breed her to? She will foal in Canada for a Canadian bred youngster and the foal is being bred to sell at a sale. Probably would be sent to a KY sale as a yearling. We have a few stallion ideas already but would be interested to know what some of you think... Stud fee not a limiting factor...

Here is a pict of her

[Hold Your Peace]

If you're a believer in the Rasmussen Factor (RF) inbreeding you can get 4x4 to Sugar Plum Time by going to Grand Slam who is a solid commercial sire (that you should be able to get a little bit of a deal on considering the high quality of your mare).

Gone West line stallions like Grand Slam have had some success with Relaunch line mares (I think Werk rates the nick an A).

TrueNicks gives a mating to Grand Slam a D with your mare.

All the nicking data is pretty far removed from the actual cross we're dealing with here (I mean TrueNicks is using data from Mr. Prospector line stallions and Skywalker mares so we're talking about third and fourth generation ancestors of a Grand Slam - Officer Cherrie foal and Werk is using Gone West and Relaunch which are second and fifth generation ancestors of a Grand Slam - Officer Cherrie foal) so I wouldn't put too much stock in nicking data on this mating.

[Altanbarr]

If you believe in the RF factor, you might try Malibu Moon, line breeding to Maximova and Seattle Slew.

[KMO_racing]

Mal Moon numbers are great in the sale ring. Need to stick to the 2 year old early start stallions, Love Mal Moon also Grand Slam

[soundfast]

City Zip had 11 starts at 2 and 12 at 3 and his run early. Why did she retire after only 7 starts? Her dam was unraced and her 2nd dam had only 7 starts. The best runner close up was Kudos by Kris S. Most of them have not lasted long. You should breed to a horse who sires sound runners. Bold Executive is a good proven horse and so is Peaks And Valleys. They both sire sounder offspring than most KY stallions. As somebody who breeds sport horses I would think you would value soundness. Grand Slam and Malibu Moon both have average earnings per runner BELOW Bold Executive and Peaks And Valleys and Grand Slams average only 11 starts and Malibu Moons only 13. Bold Executives average 20 and Peaks & Valleys 21. Bold Executives do especially well on artificial surfaces.

[kimberley mine]

If you want Rasmussen Factor, look for a stallion carrying Alydar. His dam, Sweet Tooth, is Plum Cake's best producing offspring.

They may or may not be commercially what you want, but have a look at Brother Derek or his sire Benchmark. Benchmark over Bertrando is hot.

[SemparQuel]

You may try to go to the cheap
BRITE ADAM
to repeat reversed the cross of Elite Squadron (Officer on High Brite)

[hpkingjr]

I like the hypo with Political Force.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/index.php? ... lor=000000

In Reality love the return of In Reality. Next to TV Lark, inbreeding to In Reality delivers the highest % of stakes horses. This mating would give 4 strains of In Reality including full sibs Moon Glitter and Relaunch. (Delta and RF factor) Bold Ruler appreciates Damascus and both are in abundance. His stud fee (15K) may be less than what price range you want but his first book included 23 stakes producers, 26 stakes mares and sisters to 126 stakes horses. Very strong book for a stallion in that price range.

[madelyn]

I like Student Council with this mare - he is new in 2009 and his fee will probably land in the $20-30K which would be reasonable for this mare's first mating. Her dam is half to Kudos, by Kris S -- Student Council is out of a Kris S. mare. I like the look of the Kingmambo with her sire, Officer.

[Monmouth Matt]

Don't know about the size of your gal, but here's my Top 3.......keep in mind that I do lean towards proven race sires.

1.Rahy
2.Gulch
3.Lemon Drop Kid

[Bill from WA]

Hi

Congratulations on the success of your fine runner. You might take a look at Artie Schiller for her. The hypo mating appears to be a near outcross at first galnce, but the interaction of the pedigree segments is outstanding, and at a base level, the conduit mares of the two, Frizette and Grace Commoner, form a solid base. A Kentucky client of mine has a gorgeous Officer yearling filly, and additionally, they are very impressed with a couple of lovely Artie Schiller weanlings bred by the farm that are the result of my recommendations (as was the Officer filly). Artie Schiller's first Australian crop has started to arrive, and overall, they have been very well recieved. I predict good things from this young stallion.
Good luck.

Bill

[BlazingColours]

Thanks everyone some interesting suggestions. Some who we have thought about and are in the top 10 list. Others are not on our list but worth researching some of them.

She was retired because of a very minor ankle injury. Trainer and vet recommended a 2 months rest and she could return to the track. Here is a bit of the story... 3 mares had been purchased as future broodmares. One (Clearly Foxy) was sold recently as an offer came in that we could just not turn down. So we are down to two. The other is a Lemon Drop Kid filly (Lickety Lemon) and she is doing really well so she will stay racing for awhile. She also has a 1/2 brother who is doing very well in Europe. So when Officer Cherrie came up a bit sore, we took it as an opportunity to start her breeding career. We felt she has done enough to warrant a broodmare career and we did not plan to run any of them a lot. I would rather retire them sound rather than retiring because of a broken .... or injured where they will be lame for the rest of their life. I want happy, sound and comfortable broodmares. Then also looking at it from a financial stand point; she would have to do very well in 2009 to make enough money to warrant keeping her racing. We all know how much it costs per month for training and vet fees etc... and how long breeding takes. Breed her 2009, foals 2010, foal is at yearling sale in 2011. So we are starting with her for 2009 and Lickety Lemon may or may not join her for 2009. Lemon is actually racing this weekend...

So that is where we are... choosing a good commerical cross for the yearling sales.

[KMO_racing]

Blazing,

Good luck on the race this weekend. In picking a sire for sales, breed for speed!!!! Seriously look at the 1st year sires.

[Altanbarr]

Blazing Colors,

Let us know what you decide. I think you will do well with any of the suggested sires and your mare.

[BlazingColours]

Still undecided but researching sires with the relaunch and some plum cake.

A new thought is Tiznow. And found some new sales figures on him today. http://auctions.bloodhorse.com/article/47042.htm