Naskra Dance - Black sabino mare in Florida

Bondama · Postby **Bondama** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:48 pm

Naskra Dance. Very well bred black sabino mare. Tail female to Lalun. Four white socks, blaze and snip. 16 hands. Quiet as they come. She was a kids' camp horse for the preceding 5 years before I got her in January. Any level rider can manage, from rank beginner on up. NO vices whatsoever. Loves to play in the water, total treat hound. Up to date on everything. In foal to perlino dun AQHA stud and due for late spring 2009 with buckskin or palomino appendix foal that can be registered AQHA, APHA, AAHA and any color registry that applies (IBHA or PHBA). Can't say enough nice things about this mare. Here is link to her pedigree:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/naskra+dance

Photo below of mare and last one is stud she is bred to (my boy). Contact me, Donna, with inquiries here via PM, or phone me at 321-289-6653. Extenuating circumstances force sale. $2500

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Langfuhr · Postby **Langfuhr** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:43 pm

So Im looking and looking and I cant exactly see how this mare is a black sabino. Can someone explain please?

Skipitgirl · Postby **Skipitgirl** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:25 pm

lately alot of people are under the impression that if a horse has white (any kind of white) it is a sabino which unfortunatly is not the case.

cng · Postby **cng** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:55 am

Skipitgirl wrote:lately alot of people are under the impression that if a horse has white (any kind of white) it is a sabino which unfortunatly is not the case.

But this mare is not black either.

Derby Lyn · Postby **Derby Lyn** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:01 pm

I saw the mare listed somewhere else as a black bay. Maybe she just forgot to write black bay? I have a few horses that are black in color and everyone calls them black, but the have a brown nose so the are bays. They do sun bleach in the summer.
I'm afraid to list a horse on here anymore without getting it torn apart. Last time I listed my buckskin I was told I owned a bay. Genetically he is a buckskin, and he is a dark funky color, but he is still unique looking.
Wouldn't it be more polite to pm someone?

Evenheaven · Postby **Evenheaven** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:20 pm

Derby lyn, you're not alone. I believe we have all felt the blows of unknown attacks.... it's easy to sit behind a computer screen.

helen in FL · Postby **helen in FL** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:04 pm

She could very well be a sabino, however a minimal one. The fact that she is a dark color and has as much white as she does is darn good because black is a suppressor. She could be black or she could be a really dark bay, we won't know until we get a well lit face photograph. Or better yet a DNA test.
Not every horse with socks is a sabino but also not every horse with small socks is NOT a sabino. It depends to what degree. My stallion is minimal sabino complete with the random white patch on the side of his face.

Skipitgirl · Postby **Skipitgirl** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:16 am

I was not attacking anyone. I was merely stating that alot of people mistakenly call a horse a sabino just because it has white socks. It has been going on alot lately as it seems to be the new fad. Sorry if I offended anyone :roll:

summerhorse · Postby **summerhorse** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:31 pm

She is a sabino but she looks dark bay to me. If I needed a pure black one I'd want a color test but if not, she's pretty and she rides!

springboro · Postby **springboro** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:46 pm

i don't think anyone ever means to hurt feelings, but color is one of those subjects that seems to get everyone interested.

as for me, when i see black bay or something like, i just cringe. i'm strictly by the book and use only the TB terms. If it has any brown anywhere, then it's dark bay/brown.

Black bay... really, is that a color in SOME registry? We really should stick with our own nomenclature. That is why we have a rule book. AND.. that's why i think we should have restrictions on the multitude of colors listed when putting a horse in the database. I think that the color listed should reflect the color on the registration papers.

Cremello, perlino, and spots excluded of course... you may and should still use those terms in my opinion.

Myself, i'm more interested in how they run than what color they are.

sprucie · Postby **sprucie** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:58 am

I had a black and white pinto mare that looked bay by the end of summer, but that was because she got so bleached out by the sun. She definitely was black as she threw black based foals, one black, one smoky black. Hard to get that with a bay. I'll bet this mare is sun bleached by looking at her muzzle which is black with no brown.

Bondama · Postby **Bondama** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:41 am

She was probably a black bay, and yes it was a typo. However, you could only see the bay when she was out in the sun and bleached/faded. When stalled, she was as black as coal. Her lower lip was also white, that's how I know she had sabino.

A sad twist. Last Thursday, my 14-yr. old took her out for a ride down the road for about an hour, hour and a half. Got home, hosed her down, cooled her off, turned her back out. She walked across the paddock and collapsed, dead. Vet said heart attack, possibly heat stroke. The ride was late, from 5-6:30ish, so not even the hottest part of the day. We are devastated, and my daughter is beside herself feeling guilty. I told her not to beat herself up, she did all the right things, it was just time to go.

So, we lost our dear friend. Lost the sale proceeds and lost her foal. Lose/lose all the way around. :cry:

Derby Lyn · Postby **Derby Lyn** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:03 am

Donna I am so sorry to hear that ! what a loss, and such a nice mare. And your daughter shouldn't beat herself up over it, it will only make her feel worse. Tell her to quit worrying over it, that was just a freak accident and it happens. She was an older mare, and she might have had something else going on with her heart that you would have never known about. Best wishes and I hope your daughter feels better sooner then later.

As for calling her a black bay, its like saying a liver chestnut, golden palomino, dark bay, dappled grey, smutty buckskin....just explaining the color better, its not anything to do with registration. Some people do care on the shading of the horse. They feel a dark bay when bred to a cremello gives you a darker buckskin and not one of those pretty buttermilk buckskins.

sprucie · Postby **sprucie** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:35 am

I'm so sorry to hear you lost this nice mare!