The closest example of inbreeding

[dray33]

Can anyone point me to a pedigreequery search that would be an example of the closest inbreeding ever with thoroughbreds???

Just wonderin... thanks, Drew

[charle]

Hi ; Go to " how bad is this" on the search mode.

charle

[Sam]

Can anyone point me to a pedigreequery search that would be an example of the closest inbreeding ever with thoroughbreds???

Just wonderin... thanks, Drew

Worst example I can think of is Winloc's Millie.

[Ruffian]

I remember once there was a gelding whose sire was also his half brother (so out of his sires' dam) cannot remember the name...

[Sam]

I remember once there was a gelding whose sire was also his half brother (so out of his sires' dam) cannot remember the name...

That's just the reverse of Winloc's Millie ... her sire is the same as her Broodmare sire (both being Mr. Prospector)

[Ruffian]

no way! Mr.p bred his own daughter? yuck. Who owned the dam? Must've been someone special to take a covering space with that lark.

[CdnDerbyFan]

This was the one from the thread "how bad is this". I remember seeing this thing run (badly if I recall correctly).


http://www.pedigreequery.com/index.php? ... loggedin=0

[dray33]

YOW. I wonder what they looked like!

[Ramona]

The way I understand it is, you can breed father to daughter, but not mother to son. I wouldn't do any of it, because you don't know what traits you will get when you venture that way.

[Sam]

The way I understand it is, you can breed father to daughter, but not mother to son. I wouldn't do any of it, because you don't know what traits you will get when you venture that way.

You can do either or .. it's an old wives' tale (that started with the Arab breeders) than you should only do father to daughter.

I think it's down right idiotic no matter HOW you do it.

[Ruffian]

If given the choice I would prefer Father-daughter as I believe the mother carries a stronger gene thus mother son is just <cringe>

[Pan Zareta]

no way! Mr.p bred his own daughter? yuck. Who owned the dam?

Syndicate member and/or holder of a lifetime breeding share. Same outfit also bred several 2x2's to Mr. P. - Millie Mukora, Winloc's Joyful, et al.

[Bettina]

Hallo,
have a look at the German broodmare Goldhenne (= Golden Hen!)
She 1x2 to the 3/4 brothers Birkhahn/Bürgermeister (=Mayor). She is the dam of Grimpola, won German 1000 Guineas, one more example of German in- and linebreeding. She is now the Granddam of at least
6 descents, who have listed or even Groupstandard. When you do deeper look in their peds they are 4 - 6times linebred to Bramouse.

Another example of very close inbreeding is Agamemnon (by Herold),
he is 1x3 to Herold. He is only to find in nowaday peds in the sire Prince Ippi.

Best regards, Bettina

[louis finochio]

While most of the in-breeding has been done to the dominant stallions.
Their is another way that in-breeding has produced some talented TB.
In-breeding and line-breeding to Blue Hen and foundation mares has produced its share of quality runners.
When these individuals are sent to the breeding shed, many of their offspring are diamonds in the rough. As the in-breeding is then outcrossed and hybrid vigor is the result, adding more soundness and quality to the breed. This is an example of a double edged sword.

[Ramona]

I asked the leading breeder in our state of WA what he thinks of in/line breeding, he says he outcrosses all of his mares.