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Chances of getting a grey?

Postby Jenny » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:48 pm

If you breed mares to a grey stallion, like bays, chestnuts etc. What are the chances you get a grey? is it 50%.
I have always said I have fields of brown horses I need some greys!!! But sadly all my mares are bays. :(
But there is hope with the new stud of adding some colour!!! :D

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Postby K~2 » Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:32 pm

Depends on the parents. With Judith's Wild Rush it will be 50/50 as he has one non-grey parent.
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Postby accphotography » Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:05 pm

Yes, it depends on the gray's parents. If one of them was not gray then you have a 50% chance. If both of them were gray then the stallion has a 33% chance of being homozygous and thus producing 100% grays. There are a few existing homozygous grays out there if I'm not mistaken.

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Postby Jenny » Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:32 pm

thanks guys. I will take my 50% and run with it. :D

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Postby HeadlessHorseman » Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:02 pm

For what it's worth, I have a black mare...bred 3 times to the same grey...FIRST one GREY, 2nd and 3rd bay with a few white hairs throughout their coats...

GOOD LUCK

****EDIT to say and ASK.....I GUESS "Isaiah" only had one parent grey...His Sire is grey...NOW....my one bay filly....grey dad with one grey parent....and black mom no greys...has ????? % of throwing a grey????****

HH :)
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Postby Jorge » Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:48 pm

Apropos this topic.

Let's see if this one is homozygous gray. Haven't heard anything about his progeny.

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Postby xfactor fan » Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:41 pm

I always thought that gray was a straight simple dominant. So of both gray parents have a non-gray parent (each would carry only one copy of the gray gene) then they would produce the following results

1:2:1,

1 GG Dominant Gray no chance of producing a non-gray
2 Gg Gray, 50% chance of gray, 50% chance of non-gray
1 gg non-gray, does not carry the gene.

Which would put the chance of getting a Dominant gray as 25%.
Regular gray 50%
Non-gray 25%

So breeding to a Dominant gray, all foals would be gray.
Breeding to a regular (one copy) gray, 50%-50%
Non-gray to non-gray, always non-gray.



Works the same way as cream except you can see the double dilutes.

One cream = palomino/buckskin/smokey black
Two cream = cremello/perlino/smokey cream.

Much easier to work with when you can see the genes at work.

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Re: Chances of getting a grey?

Postby BlazingColours » Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:05 am

Jenny wrote:If you breed mares to a grey stallion, like bays, chestnuts etc. What are the chances you get a grey? is it 50%.
I have always said I have fields of brown horses I need some greys!!! But sadly all my mares are bays. :(
But there is hope with the new stud of adding some colour!!! :D


hummm; Bay mares bred to cremellos can produce palominos and buckskins... :wink: Though not likely going to be the fastest race horses.

Other are correct. If the stallion onyl carrier one grey gene then you have a 50% chance. If the stallion carries two grey genes then you will be at 100%. Good luck going grey...
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Postby Fair Play » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:05 am

The probability of getting a grey is inversely proportional to your desire for one. I adore greys. I bred 4 mares to a grey. I got one.

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Re: Chances of getting a grey?

Postby RiddleMeThis » Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:05 pm

BlazingColours wrote:
Jenny wrote:If you breed mares to a grey stallion, like bays, chestnuts etc. What are the chances you get a grey? is it 50%.
I have always said I have fields of brown horses I need some greys!!! But sadly all my mares are bays. :(
But there is hope with the new stud of adding some colour!!! :D


hummm; Bay mares bred to cremellos can produce palominos and buckskins... :wink: Though not likely going to be the fastest race horses.

Other are correct. If the stallion onyl carrier one grey gene then you have a 50% chance. If the stallion carries two grey genes then you will be at 100%. Good luck going grey...
Don't forget smoky blacks lol
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Postby LB » Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:35 am

Fair Play wrote:The probability of getting a grey is inversely proportional to your desire for one. I adore greys. I bred 4 mares to a grey. I got one.


:lol:

So true.