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Shammy Davis
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Barnchick sent me this.
I had a farrier make this recommendation, and gave it a try. I had a 6 yr. old with bad feet and a chronic 1/4 crack problem. He'd missed a number of races (including a huge stake race) each year due to the 1/4 cracks. The tip was from a standardbred trainer who used it on all his horses and had no foot issues. It is "Knox" gelatin powder, available in packet form from any bakery aisle of any grocery store. Feed one packet daily. My guy raced 'till 9 (this year) and finished this season with 3 wins, and passed the 500k mark. He didn't miss a race from the time he started the wonder powder. His hoof quality was never better and he didn't use farriers formula etc. It is a very cheap alternative to all the creams and sups.
I had a farrier make this recommendation, and gave it a try. I had a 6 yr. old with bad feet and a chronic 1/4 crack problem. He'd missed a number of races (including a huge stake race) each year due to the 1/4 cracks. The tip was from a standardbred trainer who used it on all his horses and had no foot issues. It is "Knox" gelatin powder, available in packet form from any bakery aisle of any grocery store. Feed one packet daily. My guy raced 'till 9 (this year) and finished this season with 3 wins, and passed the 500k mark. He didn't miss a race from the time he started the wonder powder. His hoof quality was never better and he didn't use farriers formula etc. It is a very cheap alternative to all the creams and sups.
Shammy Davis wrote:Barnchick sent me this.
I had a farrier make this recommendation, and gave it a try. I had a 6 yr. old with bad feet and a chronic 1/4 crack problem. He'd missed a number of races (including a huge stake race) each year due to the 1/4 cracks. The tip was from a standardbred trainer who used it on all his horses and had no foot issues. It is "Knox" gelatin powder, available in packet form from any bakery aisle of any grocery store. Feed one packet daily. My guy raced 'till 9 (this year) and finished this season with 3 wins, and passed the 500k mark. He didn't miss a race from the time he started the wonder powder. His hoof quality was never better and he didn't use farriers formula etc. It is a very cheap alternative to all the creams and sups.
We use gelatin also. It was recommended by our vet as an inexpensive joint supplement. Seems to work as well as the more expensive stuff.
Chuck
Last edited by cewright on Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.
LKR wrote:lDo you use a whole packet everyday?
My wife buys it online. 1 scoop (about 2 oz)/day
http://www.greatlakesgelatin.com/EquineUseaage.htm
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Shammy Davis
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Tiz: I have learned that BP is an acquired taste for the horse.
I feed it moistened and mixed with alfafa cubes. Once both are completely moist and just before feeding I add our pelleted dry feed and cracked corn and mix everything thoroughly and immdiately feed. Our horses gulp it down.
Another suggestion is that beet pulp comes in dry pelleted form. I've seen it at Tractor Supply. You might try mixing it with your regular feed.
I'm high on moistened feed because I've had no problems w/colic since starting the regimen a number of years ago.
I feed it moistened and mixed with alfafa cubes. Once both are completely moist and just before feeding I add our pelleted dry feed and cracked corn and mix everything thoroughly and immdiately feed. Our horses gulp it down.
Another suggestion is that beet pulp comes in dry pelleted form. I've seen it at Tractor Supply. You might try mixing it with your regular feed.
I'm high on moistened feed because I've had no problems w/colic since starting the regimen a number of years ago.
Gelatin
I pulled up the site that CEWRIGHT provided and it claims gelatin is good for good hooves abnd also helps prevent joint proplems.
I can buy into the improved hoof claim pretty easy as I've seen what gelatin does for finget nails.. And I hope it offers just as much promise on protecting joints which is my major concern as my horses have pretty good feet.
Does anyone have anything on gelatin and joint maintenance??
griff
I pulled up the site that CEWRIGHT provided and it claims gelatin is good for good hooves abnd also helps prevent joint proplems.
I can buy into the improved hoof claim pretty easy as I've seen what gelatin does for finget nails.. And I hope it offers just as much promise on protecting joints which is my major concern as my horses have pretty good feet.
Does anyone have anything on gelatin and joint maintenance??
griff
"We has met the enemy and he is us" [Pogo]
I Googled "equine gelatin" and found some interesting The Horse.com articles. One says gelatin "---influences the homeostaesis of those amino acides required for cartilaqge synthesis --" but that more research is needed to prove the amino acides will repaid or prevent cartilage damage.
Not quite the plain English recommendation I was searching for but that combined with other stuff I have read recently is enough to convience mee to invest 65 cents a day to try this stuff
griff
Not quite the plain English recommendation I was searching for but that combined with other stuff I have read recently is enough to convience mee to invest 65 cents a day to try this stuff
griff
"We has met the enemy and he is us" [Pogo]
imaginative horse care
One old-time remedy for the treatment of calor, dolor, rubor, and tumor is river bottom mud. This clay and silt compound was collected, dried, and packaged in 10# bags and could be purchased in most animal feed stores that catered to horses. When reconstituted with water its application was to reduce leg inflammation that resulted from strenuous exercise.
joint help
Seeing how my gelatin went over well, I'll add another. Cider vinegar for calcification troubles. A few teaspoons on feed, or dosed. It does inhibit a horses 'over calcification', as you get with splints and joint trauma. Any of the anecdotal evidence you can find for it working in humans indicates that it may. With horses it has an even stronger effect. I can't explain how. But I have seen a difference in splint recovery, and always add it to horses in training. Again, pennies a day, for both.
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I've noted a lot of people already wetting down their feed in here, so I thought I'd throw in my grandma's idea (she used it for the dairy cows, but it works well for all species, people included!)
She used to save all the water used to boil potatoes for dinner and wet the feed with it. Most of the vitamins (including LOTS of Vitamin C!) found in 'taters are left behind in the water...so why not pass them along to your four-legged friends? I try to do this whenever I remember...and our barn has seen less of runny noses and unexplained coughs over the years. Waste not, want not!
She used to save all the water used to boil potatoes for dinner and wet the feed with it. Most of the vitamins (including LOTS of Vitamin C!) found in 'taters are left behind in the water...so why not pass them along to your four-legged friends? I try to do this whenever I remember...and our barn has seen less of runny noses and unexplained coughs over the years. Waste not, want not!
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Shammy Davis
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Tiz posted:
You've got me on this one. I don't have any definite suggestions.
Do you mix salt in? It sounds to me like your recipe is a little on the sweet side. I would ditch the sweets and apple juice. I'm really guessing at this but why don't you just try mixing BP w/alfafa or timothy cubes and just add four or five tablespoons of salt. Then add your dry pellets and supplements immediately prior to feeding. The meal is moist, but has a dry component. That's our regimen. I just brought a new mare in yesterday and got her going on this regimen in one day.
Then, again, if you've had it, you've had it. I hate when horse people want let a bad subject go away, so I'll leave it at that. I'm sorry you are having problems w/this.
I do soak the BP, Shammy, and mix it with my other feed, and use molasses, and apple juice, in the water I soak it in.
You've got me on this one. I don't have any definite suggestions.
Do you mix salt in? It sounds to me like your recipe is a little on the sweet side. I would ditch the sweets and apple juice. I'm really guessing at this but why don't you just try mixing BP w/alfafa or timothy cubes and just add four or five tablespoons of salt. Then add your dry pellets and supplements immediately prior to feeding. The meal is moist, but has a dry component. That's our regimen. I just brought a new mare in yesterday and got her going on this regimen in one day.
Then, again, if you've had it, you've had it. I hate when horse people want let a bad subject go away, so I'll leave it at that. I'm sorry you are having problems w/this.