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Speaking of very rare unusual pedigrees: Post the rarest:

Postby Jorge » Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:01 pm

Speaking of very rare, unheard, unusual pedigrees: Would you please post the rarest you can find. Please limit to thoase foaled in 2002, 2003, 2004 or 2005.

Thanks in advance for your postings,

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Postby Jorge » Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:53 pm

Looks like rare pedigrees vanished from the Breed after 2001?

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Postby BJ » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:11 pm

Jorge wrote:Looks like rare pedigrees vanished from the Breed after 2001?


Not sure how "rare" it needs to be, but this one seems rather rare.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/index.php? ... ONE&g=5&l=

P.S. He resides at CERF - and Equine Rescue in CA.

http://www.cerfhorses.org/handsomeone.html

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Postby kimberley mine » Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:04 pm

Jorge,

Master's Honey and Missed His Date are 3/4 brothers, the last ones standing of the Double Jay branch of Balladier. Unless magic happens, the Double Jay line will die with these two.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/index.php? ... NEY&g=5&l=

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Postby siegy » Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:40 am

BJ wrote:
Jorge wrote:Looks like rare pedigrees vanished from the Breed after 2001?


Not sure how "rare" it needs to be, but this one seems rather rare.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/index.php? ... ONE&g=5&l=

P.S. He resides at CERF - and Equine Rescue in CA.

http://www.cerfhorses.org/handsomeone.html

:lol: hi, rare yes, there are a continues flow to the past of rassmussen's ,may bee this is somthing to look at,
numberwise with 1.12-0.40 and a speed-stamina of 9.5-8.5 looks good, only objection might be low classical, in relation to r- factor.
your's Siegy,

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Postby BJ » Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:21 am

siegy wrote:
BJ wrote:
Jorge wrote:Looks like rare pedigrees vanished from the Breed after 2001?


Not sure how "rare" it needs to be, but this one seems rather rare.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/index.php? ... ONE&g=5&l=

P.S. He resides at CERF - and Equine Rescue in CA.

http://www.cerfhorses.org/handsomeone.html

:lol: hi, rare yes, there are a continues flow to the past of rassmussen's ,may bee this is somthing to look at,
numberwise with 1.12-0.40 and a speed-stamina of 9.5-8.5 looks good, only objection might be low classical, in relation to r- factor.
your's Siegy,


Hey Siegy! :shock:

Where have you been? :shock:

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Postby siegy » Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:33 am

BJ wrote:
siegy wrote:
BJ wrote:
Jorge wrote:Looks like rare pedigrees vanished from the Breed after 2001?


Not sure how "rare" it needs to be, but this one seems rather rare.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/index.php? ... ONE&g=5&l=

P.S. He resides at CERF - and Equine Rescue in CA.

http://www.cerfhorses.org/handsomeone.html

:lol: hi, rare yes, there are a continues flow to the past of rassmussen's ,may bee this is somthing to look at,
numberwise with 1.12-0.40 and a speed-stamina of 9.5-8.5 looks good, only objection might be low classical, in relation to r- factor.
your's Siegy,


Hey Siegy! :shock:

Where have you been? :shock:
hi bj,
been busy putting the final on the crazy number's,
put 72 tranfer mares together, if you guys are interexted i, will post them, they are old soooo,no pun intended but 72 is 1/5 of the circle and sound a good enough number, like 20 to easyly judge newer devolopment's ,since my little functionally brain can only work in the old roman days.
so i'm back, thanks for beeing interested,
your's Siegy (also known as Granithe 8 footed horse)
watch out 8 legs are strong!!!!! :lol:

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Postby jellac » Sun Mar 13, 2005 2:27 pm

Jorge -
The last extant active stallion of the "AMBIORIX" sireline that I have been able to locate is FRENCH SEVENTYFIVE. He is a son of BOITRON, by FARAWAY SON by AMBIOPOISE, a son of AMBIORIX. When this stallion ceases to cover mares or dies this line will retreat to distant history.

He stands in Oklahoma to both QHs and TBs and in fact his fee went up this year, perhaps because he finally has a BT winner or more likely because of the approval of slots. (From very few opportunities he has sired the SP winner, Miss French, but she was second at Arapahoe Park to a filly that went on to be a fair handicap level runner at Sunland and even Santa Anita. A.P. is hardly a top venue and the time of the race seemed kind of slow to me but I'm not familiar with what an average time at AP might be.)

With no intact sons of his appearing as prospective replacements this sireline will vanish except via it's female descendants.....AMBIORIX himself ended up being more highly thought of for his daughters than his sons.

HOWEVER IF you look through the Bloodhorse's Stallion Register of 2005 you'll be surprised how many times an Ambiorix sireline mare - his daughters, granddaughters, and even great granddaugthers and beyond - appear in the direct tail female family of our active stallions. THis list would include Smarty Jones, as a recent example. This was even more true a decade ago when there were still active "Ambiorix sireline stallions" at stud.

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Postby llbean » Sun Mar 13, 2005 2:30 pm

Welcome Back Seigy!

I'm interested in the 72 transfer mares...

-llbean

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Postby jellac » Sun Mar 13, 2005 2:32 pm

I'd also be interested to see 1/5 of the circle, siegy

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Postby Jorge » Sun Mar 13, 2005 7:58 pm

Dear Collaborators,

Thanks to all of you for your wonderful suggestions. Please feel free to add additional names. Wow, the Ambiorix lineage!

Thanks again. Be Blessed.

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Postby llbean » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:58 pm

72 X 5 = 360!

Hi Seigy,

You are impressing me as it took me the longest time to notice that.

-llbean

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Postby Nessa » Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:48 pm

When I looked at this subject I didn't think there would be many horses left from rare bloodline, but I decided to look through the JC listing for mares bred from last year and here is what I found.

A Real Holme1982 FL - Noholme II- A Real Native/Star Kingdom
Acaroid1978 IA - Big Spruce-Arachne /Herbager
Act Smart1992 MB- Smarten-Saratoga Warning/Cyane line Turn-To
Accomplished Lover1982 OK - Ruby's Love-Plunder Ground/Court Martial
Aplusnick2000 MO - Judex-Spadger/Forli
Allocated1979 WA - Nodouble-Necie's Pride/Noholme
Advancing Ensign1985 ID - Blue Ensign-Right Advance/Hoist the Flag
Artic Twister1985 AB - Son of Briartic-Magewind/Neartic non ND
Amicable1996 TX- Just a Tab-Leisurely Lady/Al Hattab
Arms and the Man1984 MD - Salutely-First Roman/Hoist the Flag
Alladin Rib1985 OH - Da' White Judge-Alladin's Risk/Spy Song

These aren't rare sirelines, but they are rare representatives of current sirelines.
Aaron's Concorde1984 MD- Super Concorde-La Legende/non Seattle Slew Bold Reasoning
Antonio Holding1997 TX - Foreign Holding-Maria's Prospector/Damascus
Adios Mundo1987 NM - Native Tactics-Jessica/Bold Ruler
Anotherbuckforbcee1986 KY - Truckin Buck-Bee Cee's Dream/Buckpasser
Arz1991 IA - Known Fact-Last Request/In Reality

I'm going to look through the rest to see how many I can find.
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Postby kimberley mine » Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:27 am

Nessa--Nearctic sans Northern Dancer isn't as rare as one might think, thanks to Icecapade. The Icecapade strain of Nearctic is quite well represented through Wild Again and his sons and through Clever Trick and his get.

Da White Judge may be the last of the Spy Song branch of Balladier.

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Postby Rick » Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:40 pm

I don't know if he is still around but there was a son of Hatchet Man in Florida named Lordhyexecutioner.