Jackson Bend

[Toccet02]

is the darkest chestnut I have ever seen. I was convinced he was a brown, even in a close up shot. To my eye it doesn't look "livery", either.

Comments? Explanations? Or is shade totally not genetically passed on?

[HeadlessHorseman]

I'd love to see him....do you have a pic????

HH

[SpecialEffects]

HH...
you can't see him? He's very cute.
Maybe there is a problem with your computer??
You might want to take it in somewhere.












psssttt... kidding. I can't either

[HeadlessHorseman]

I SEE HIM....He's wearing a lovely golden bridle and silver shoes....

http://www.pedigreequery.com/jackson+bend

HE'S SUPER BROWN....all one color....and COOL!!!!

HH

[SpecialEffects]

What's the world coming to when we have to work that hard to see a pic?

Very nice but he sure doesn't look chestnut to me... not at all.

[accphotography]

He's even DARKER in the other photos I've seen.

[Toccet02]

I suggest coining the term "root beer chestnut".

Very odd, huh? He doesn't have the orangy or even pinkish tints (usually around the tail base, I've noticed) that liver chestnuts have. he's not a slight liver chestnut like Smarty Jones, who is also pretty dark, nor the caramel that whywhywhy has and throws.

Can you tell I like shades?

[color]

I just have a mare here to be bred, she is looking like him and color but she is a smoky black. Looks like in between black and the darkest chestnut you can imagine.

[xfactor fan]

Given that there are lots of browns close up in the pedigree, is it possible he was mis-registered? Anyone know if he's been color tested?

[accphotography]

It's certainly possible Xfactor. I have zero doubt he's not been color tested. However I have never seen a liver/black chestnut be liver at birth. They are nearly always just red. So I'm guessing his foal coat made it obvious he is red. I will be seeing him in person in a day or two and I'll let you know if I can tell anything, but I suspect it will be more apparent in person.

[Toccet02]

I'd love to see him....do you have a pic????

HH

http://www.finalturngallery.com/g2/main.php/v/DeborahKralPhotography/Kentucky%20Derby_002/10_jacksonbend_dk4143.jpg.html

wow. How good does the brown saddle towel look on him? YUM indeed!

[xfactor fan]

Great color photo.

I'd really like to have him color tested and see what is really going on. Wouldn't be surprised to find that he's a cream carrier. Or that there is a undiscovered modifier that works on red. Something like sooty, that changes the overall shade of the horse.

Or perhaps what is going on is how the pigment is placed in the hair shaft. Which has popped up in some of the Domino line horses.

In any event he's a lovely color.

[accphotography]

So you think he's palomino?

It's really not an unusual shade of chestnut. It happens alot, especially in Morgans. It has been theorized for a long time that there is a modifier that effects red coats but is not sooty, basically a liver gene.

[HeadlessHorseman]

Thanks for posting one....OH MAN...he's super dark....his mane looks black to me..

Color...are you talking about you lovely colored Dressed to Dance mare???? SHE IS SOMETHING ELSE....

HH

[xfactor fan]

I think that the golden palomino has been selected out of the TB gene pool. (Historically) And the cream gene that is left is linked to some type of modifier that creates a very dark coat color. Every once in a while there is a cross over, the linkage is lost and suddenly there is a golden palomino.

If you look at the damline of Milkie, you will see a whole collection of mares described as dark bay/brown. Jackson Bend doesn't have quite as many of these dark bay/brown mares in his bottom line, but there are a few.

Makes me wonder about smoky blacks.

On the other hand he could just have the modifier which darkens the base coat--liver is a good term for it--and he does look like some of the dark, dark chestnut horses.

Would be interesting to know for sure.