battle plan to the land of the rising sun

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battle plan to the land of the rising sun

Postby bdw0617 » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:43 am

that is very shocking to me.

something like this IMHO hits to the core of the industry and what is accecpted and what is not.

usualyl, you get a champion mare, you bred a horse that can run, he shows (real) talent even if he did not win a grade 1 he should have for the most part his pick of farms to stand at and his suitors.

maybe i underestimated kentucky breeders. maybe they have had enough of breeding brittle horses and not getting a return on investment.

even with the brittleness, he looks like a good prospect, or at least a decent one. one that deserves a shot somewhere albeit at the right price
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Re: battle plan to the land of the rising sun

Postby LB » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:51 am

bdw0617 wrote:that is very shocking to me.

something like this IMHO hits to the core of the industry and what is accecpted and what is not....

even with the brittleness, he looks like a good prospect, or at least a decent one. one that deserves a shot somewhere albeit at the right price


But he's getting a shot...and the right price was paid by someone in Japan. Why is this unacceptable to you? Right now just about everyone in the horse industry is hurting. I can't imagine anyone not selling to the highest bidder.

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Postby bdw0617 » Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:03 pm

i did not say it was unacceptable, just shocking.
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Re: battle plan to the land of the rising sun

Postby Heidilady » Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:50 pm

LB wrote:
bdw0617 wrote:that is very shocking to me.

something like this IMHO hits to the core of the industry and what is accecpted and what is not....

even with the brittleness, he looks like a good prospect, or at least a decent one. one that deserves a shot somewhere albeit at the right price


But he's getting a shot...and the right price was paid by someone in Japan. Why is this unacceptable to you? Right now just about everyone in the horse industry is hurting. I can't imagine anyone not selling to the highest bidder.


I don't particularly like losing him, but if American breeders don't put up the $$ I guess what do we expect? It doesn't sound like there was even a close call. They must've recognized something they needed, the breeding is certainly attention getting and he was obviously talented. They might've figured he hadn't quite done what would draw the highest bids and they knew for sure they wanted him so they pulled an eBay "buy now" style purchase rather than just be competitive with what everybody else was offering.
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Postby da hossman » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:09 am

Realize also that the "Overbrook" name adds significant value in some people's opinion, but probably not in the eyes of US breeders as Overbrook is defunct as a stud farm. For more evidence of the name value, review the sales results from the dispersal last year - well bred, black type winning 15 year old mares that have not produced a single runner of note selling for $400,000 + was not real market value - the "Overbrook" tag inflated many of those prices.

Also Battle Plan did not run early, which is still of prime importance to US breeders.

As always, money talks - see Lion Heart's sale to Turkey; further evidence that the only sure ways to make a stallion are to have him die early or sell him overseas! :lol:
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Postby Intrinsic Worth » Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:16 pm

Why they ever bred Flanders (who wasn't durable) to Empire Maker was beyond me. He's better off in Japan.
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