GLUE-ON SHOES, PLEASE HELP?
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- lucalucaluca
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GLUE-ON SHOES, PLEASE HELP?
I need to buy 6 kits of glue-on shoes for a horse, but I have no idea where to find them and the name of the best brand. I will really appreciate anyone's help - it's an acrylic or composite glue-on shoes, size 6. Looking for a vendor, that I can place an order over the internet or by phone. Thanks a lot in advance!!!
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I'd avoid glue on shoes. almost all hoof problems can be dealt with in ways that avoid the disadvantages of glue ons which are difficult to apply except by specialists, expensive, and also dangerous to long term hoof soundness--see the USA horse Big Brown. Might post your hoof problem on www.horseshoes.com. you're likely to get an good answer that avoids the glue ons. this is my opinion only. others differ.
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good Q BDW. for my or so steeds over past 25 years I've yet to see one with thin walls or walls that fail to hold a nail. possibly Shammy and I will agree again that most hoof problems are solved by experienced farriers in various ways, nails, rasp and hoof knife. back in my learning days I used a lot of equilox hoof composite (of the type used with glue ons) to patch weak spots in hoofs, hold on shoes, etc. once had a horse race were 2/3 of the nail holes were being held together by equilox.
as you become more experienced you see other solutions to these same problems--nail size, good trimming, on going husbandry gets around most of these problems. Big Brown and his hoof problems--to me--although it's guess work on limited info--was a good e.g. of a farrier--ian whatever his name was--whose very good at procedure but fails to know S from shinola in terms of making the hoof long term sound. I think Ian's work was BBs main problem. but, that is my opinon.
as you become more experienced you see other solutions to these same problems--nail size, good trimming, on going husbandry gets around most of these problems. Big Brown and his hoof problems--to me--although it's guess work on limited info--was a good e.g. of a farrier--ian whatever his name was--whose very good at procedure but fails to know S from shinola in terms of making the hoof long term sound. I think Ian's work was BBs main problem. but, that is my opinon.
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I agree w/ratherrapid. A good farrier will put some thought and imagination into what he/she is doing particularly when it comes to the difficult soundness problems. One of the posts indicated that interference tore a portion of the hoof off while the shoe remained intact. That's not good. Makes sense to me that it is better to lose the shoe, than the hoof.
Fortunately, arthritis got a hold of my hands before the "glue on bug" so I never worked with it. I've watched other farrier's work with the stuff and I came to the conclusion that its worth was found in the "jacked up prices" they charged.
I started out when all we used was the nail. In the late 60's, the industry had just begun using dental acrylic to patch severe cracks and wounds, but I just kept threading them with a couple of nails. Of course, sometimes it just makes sense to protect the hoof and let nature take its course.
It will be interesting to see what the future holds for the glue on.
As I recall BIG BROWN's primary problem was white line disease. That's a problem of a different sort.
Fortunately, arthritis got a hold of my hands before the "glue on bug" so I never worked with it. I've watched other farrier's work with the stuff and I came to the conclusion that its worth was found in the "jacked up prices" they charged.
I started out when all we used was the nail. In the late 60's, the industry had just begun using dental acrylic to patch severe cracks and wounds, but I just kept threading them with a couple of nails. Of course, sometimes it just makes sense to protect the hoof and let nature take its course.
It will be interesting to see what the future holds for the glue on.
As I recall BIG BROWN's primary problem was white line disease. That's a problem of a different sort.
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see that's a good point. Big Brown really wasn't "unsound" he just had issues. Also if I am not mistaken he had a really bad habit, I guess this is a conformational issue of grabbing the back legs with the front legs when he strides, which is eventually caused the end of his career when he tore a chunk of his foof/foot off in a workout
I remember reading the posts about BB's farrier and everyone saying he was a demi god, I guess that was not the case.
I remember reading the posts about BB's farrier and everyone saying he was a demi god, I guess that was not the case.
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In the sporthorse world, there are horses who are brilliant and talented (like Big Brown) but who will occasionally strike one leg or foot with another while performing, which is actually due usually to a conformation flaw. We protect the sporthorse leg or hoof from that action flaw through use of boots, whether splint, cannon, fetlock, or bellboots for the feet. In my opinion, it is an open field in terms of inventing products for racehorses to fill this gap. For example, how about an "Armorboot" made in shoe sizes, to fit snugly over the hoof, of Kevlar? And how about tendon, splint or fetlock socks made of breathable padded mesh to prevent heat buildup?
So Run for the Roses, as fast as you can.....
Have a look at www.farriervet.com and contact through the message board. Brilliant farrier and, as title implies, a vet too.