Name most improbable stallion y/can find in a 21st cent. ped

Jorge · Postby **Jorge** » Sat Aug 14, 2010 7:28 pm

Quite interesting Venusian. Thanks for that interesting watch!

Here a stallion prospect with good bloodlines:
PARADISE PRINCE (gray colt 2007)
http://www.pedigreequery.com/paradise+prince
http://www.equinenow.com/horse-ad-322345

A descendant from the rarely seen SEA NYMPH
http://www.pedigreequery.com/sea+nymph2

sparta · Postby **sparta** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:06 pm

Herbager line mare with Hill Gail on the dam side:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/santa+cecilia2

Jorge · Postby **Jorge** » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:39 pm

Just from the oven!

AFLEET EXPRESS (Afleet Alex) who won the 2010 Travers Stakes descends from Nasco (bay H 1955), who was a full brother to Bold Ruler.
Nasco is the 5th broodmare sire of AFLEET EXPRESS. This one is really
a rarity!

http://www.pedigreequery.com/afleet+express

Shammy Davis · Postby **Shammy Davis** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:47 am

Did anyone mention CAPOT? He went to stud w/fertility problems and sired only 15 foals. I think he was co-Horse of the Year in 1946.

Jorge: WILL HAYS was a full brother to REVIEWER who was sire of RUFFIAN, et al. I think he stood somewhere out west.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/will+hays

I don't think his book was ever relished by the mainline breeding community. That was my point. I owned a very nice winning mare named Sci Sci. Her broodmare sire was WH. Unfortunately, we never got her in foal and subsequently she died from an apparent snake bite some years back.

Sorry to respond so late to your post.

Jorge · Postby **Jorge** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:51 pm

Oh, for a moment I thought you were referring to
WILLS WAY but you are referring to WILL HAYS.

Would like to read more on this horse unknown to me, albeit I am aare of the excellent Reviewer.

Thank you so much for your posting.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/wills+way

Jorge · Postby **Jorge** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:22 pm

Unusual Heat has a very interesting bottom half.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/unusual+heat
There you can rare sires coming from well known sabino families

He is represented at Barretts with this good looking filly
Photo: http://www.barretts.com/Catalog/catoct10/images/123.jpg
from his cross to the mare Regal Riot
http://www.pedigreequery.com/regal+riot

Equipoise28 · Postby **Equipoise28** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:01 am

Rose Catherine

http://www.pedigreequery.com/rose+catherine

The stallion Hoist Bar has as his broodmare sire Three Bars, the famous sire of Quarter Horses.

Jorge · Postby **Jorge** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:14 pm

SNARK (brown Horse 1933), a rarely mentioned durable top-quality stakes winner of the 30's is the 6th broodmare sire of HEY HEY HEY. This pedigree is also carrying the rare but also quite durable names of Degenerate Gal and Degenerate Jon

http://www.pedigreequery.com/hey+hey+hey2

Equipoise28, Very interesting find that of ROSE CATHERINE.

Jorge · Postby **Jorge** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:18 pm

Jorge wrote:SNARK (brown Horse 1933), a rarely mentioned durable top-quality stakes winner of the 30's is the 6th broodmare sire of HEY HEY HEY.

Correction: SNARK is the 5th broodmare sire of HEY HEY HEY.

Jorge · Postby **Jorge** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:40 pm

Jorge wrote:You don't see very often the name of
MY DAD GEORGE (1967) these days.
He is present on PADDY OPRADO's pedigree.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/paddy+oprado

Browsing PADDY OPRADO's pedigree again made me uncover his very atypical maternal pedigree. Take a look at the names of the sires appearing on his 7th removed:

The most rare are with an asterisk:

ROYAL CHARGER
BLUE SWORDS
NASRULLAH
BULL LEA
ROSE PRINCE
PAPYRUS***************
BULL DOG
GOLD BRIDGE
DHOTI (GB)*************
BULL DOG
FLARES
BURGOO KING**********
RUSTOM PASHA********
DIADOQUE (GB)********
AMBIORIX (FR)*********
HASTEVILLE***********
BLUE PETER
ST MAGNUS************
FELSTEAD**************
TALKING(AUS)**********
NEARCO (ITY)
DJEDDAH***************
STALINO***************
OIL CAPITOL***********
BALLADIER
REQUIEBRO (ARG)******
PRINCE ROSE
MAT DE COCAGNE******
ROYAL CHARGER
BULL LEA
THE RHYMER***********
FRITZ MAISEL**********

Hope he finally becomes a sire because those names in
a single combo are really a Dream Team of good old names!

Jorge · Postby **Jorge** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:22 pm

Take a look to the bottom half of this pedigree. Nothing in particular but ALL the pedigree :roll:

MOCHA TWIST (Buckskin Mare 2006)

http://www.pedigreequery.com/mocha+twist

charlie · Postby **charlie** » Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:46 pm

Captain Bodgit's third dam is by Sink not Sunk, a stakes placed son of Saggy.

Jorge · Postby **Jorge** » Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:27 am

Sink not Sunk... great find and good durable horse indeed.

Now this other case:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/cliff+action

Seeing High Echelon in a pedigree is quite rare these days.
It's a shame because High Echelon was such a great sire of good fillies and mares. The lesson to be learned here would be, never take for safe any given lineage, not even the tail male lineages of Mr. Prospector and Northern Dancer.

Georgerz · Postby **Georgerz** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:30 pm

This 10 yr old Charming Fella, who recently won his debut race at TP, descends from Prophet's Thumb, a Bull Lea stallion.

Jorge · Postby **Jorge** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:58 pm

CHARMING FELLA http://www.pedigreequery.com/charming+fella

and his ancestor PROPHETS THUMB http://www.pedigreequery.com/prophets+thumb
Those were the days when horses with many starts were not necessarily
geldings like we see today.

Another good name in this pedigree is Ambiorix, http://www.pedigreequery.com/ambiorix
nice find too! (sire of Gray Phantom http://www.pedigreequery.com/gray+phantom )

Georgerz, thanks for the interesting addition.