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Postby Ozzie Overo » Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:18 pm

Can anyone tell me if there are any dilute thoroughbreds that have raced and if any have won?
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Postby ElPrado » Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:58 pm

If you are talking palominos, etc, there may have been a few runners, not sure if any won. No cremellos, I've never heard of any in training. Jorge would know.
No roans, the breed doesn't have the roan gene. Some people call a chestnut with the grey gene a roan, but a roan doesn't get lighter with age, which a grey does.

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Postby Jorge » Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:14 pm

My main suggestion is to logon the following threads already posted here.

I don't recall the name of any winning Thoroughbred
but if there is a chance of a case, he or she descends, or is closely related to one of the names appearing on the following threads:

LIST HERE THE SMOKY CREAMS YOU KNOW:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/forum/view ... cremelllos

LIST HERE THE CREMELLOS YOU KNOW:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/forum/view ... t+perlinos

LIST HERE THE PERLINOS YOU KNOW:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/forum/view ... t+perlinos

Since double-diluted cases come from single diluted influences you just have to examine every immediate parent cited on these threads. Enjoy and Good luck!

(p.s. Don't forget to read as much as you can about 1968 Belmont Stakes winner STAGE DOOR JOHNNY. Although he was officially registered as "chestnut", who knows what kind of chestnut he was!!!)

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Postby K~2 » Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:58 pm

Jorge wrote:(p.s. Don't forget to read as much as you can about 1968 Belmont Stakes winner STAGE DOOR JOHNNY. Although he was officially registered as "chestnut", who knows what kind of chestnut he was!!!)


I pretty sure Stage Door Johnny was just a chestnut.

The photo of him on this webpage certainly shows a very typical chestnut.
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Postby color » Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:13 am

There ARE true roan TBs in Australia and they also race.
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Postby xfactor fan » Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:09 pm

Kind of depends on your definition of roan.

Catch a Bird certainly sired some horses that look like roans. He seems to have been a new mutation--no regular roans in his family. This may be the same roan mutation that other horses have, it it may be a new mutation.

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Postby accphotography » Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:50 pm

They're still true roans, by definition, regardless of mutation.
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Postby Jorge » Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:57 pm

color wrote:There ARE true roan TBs in Australia and they also race.


The following thread:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/forum/view ... sc&start=0

was precisely posted hoping to save and reproduce the very few genuine genetic roan Thoroughbreds out there. Please let us promote this issue for the benefice of the Thoroughbred breed.