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Postby griff » Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:38 pm

We are taking Honour de Vive to Dr Ian Harrison next week as he thinks Honour de Vine is a good canidate for PRP treatment which injects platelets in the tear to stimulate healing.. Says the process takes about an hour..

Dr harrisson was with VA Tech's Marian Duke something Equine Center in Leesburg VA before opening his own clinic in Berryville, VA.. A good guy and excellent equine vet.

I'm all for giving this horse another crack at getting to the track but his current problem is a healed tendon tear that reopened and am concerned about have to get scar tissue to heal again and not reopen again.. Maybe Dr Harrison will bemove the scar tisssue before he injects the platelets.

I'm a meat and potatoes regional racer and I will probably never get a crack at a horse o/o a dam like Delicate vine again..

5/4/0/1 with a G-1 win, a G-2 win, a G-3 win and a 3rd in another G-1.. The only race she ever ran that was not a graded stakes race was her MSW, which she won.. Also, has produced 3 or 4 stakes winners, or maybe they were stakes placed, but one of those did place in a graded stakes race..

enough potential here for me to invest a little money and time and certainly good enough to breed to my 3S X 4D to Mr P mare as he hs no lines to Mr. P... Honour will be back up to limit Out with two of my other three mares and I have a friend that taking a Prospect bay mare to him .

I think we'll get at least 2 Honour de Vine foals on the ground next year and the rest of his stud career will depend on how successful the PRP treatment is. Honouris a big good looking colt and we shall see how the PRP treatment goes.

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Postby KBEquine » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:10 pm

Wishing you the best, Griff - I hope to be cheering home a winner for you from this sire in a few years' time.

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Postby Diane » Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:07 pm

Well Griff you sure have done like you said from the beginning....swing for the fences. This tendon repair treatment gives you another bump up on the learning curve. Getting this guy back onto the track would be a major coup. Best of luck.

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Postby Shammy Davis » Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:16 pm

Griff: Sounds like you have a good plan. Best of luck.

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Postby griff » Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:57 pm

Thanks people

I'll let you know what dr harrison says after he scops him..

he's now a WV stallion and complimentary to people breeding for the WVBRED program. Big good looking colt with a sierra hotel pedigree, especially on the bottom, and no lines t0 Mr P.

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Postby Toccet02 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:58 pm

ct2346 wrote:
Toccet02 wrote:
griff wrote:Toccet02

I'm probably a minority of one but have no interest whatsoever in your pedigree.. I am curoius as to why you insist on casting asperisions on the soundness of my breeding stallion when you have no knowledge of the colt or the circumstances of his injury.. would you also contend my colt has a soundness issue if he were hit by a train??

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For God's sake, forget it. You seem to be one of those that can't argue fairly because you can't stick to the specific points at hand. But to answer your statement and question:
1) I am NOT casting any judgement on this particular horse. Just that he is possibly not a super-strong individual.
2)Of course not. A good argument depends on the ability of both parties to make distinctions and not to use unfair metaphors. So, a door? Maybe not be injured. A train? Obviously.


It's YOU that doesn't get it. You are criticizing a man's horse and you've never even seen it! You know NOTHING on the topic yet you feel compelled to weigh in. I have at least seen the horse in question. Stick to your fantasy stables and "lists".


Guys, READ, don't JUMP. I am NOT criticizing the man's horse.
ALL I SAID was that perhaps a horse who did NOT end up with an injury after slamming his leg down MIGHT be a superior individual. What do people say of someone who ate spoiled food without getting sick? "They have a strong stomach". Does this mean those who get ill from bad food are weak? certainly not. Just typical or normal.
What I basically meant was that if a horse slammed his leg and didn't injure it, he might be very strong in the tendons and that might be worth passing on.
I am surprised that no one has backed me up on this, which is a mere statement of logic, not a claim that I know horses inside and out. I never said I did. As for my fantasy stables and lists, yes it's an educational hobby I enjoy. Perhaps someday I might be a better owner or breeder than those admitted experts who scream and belittle others without really understanding what they said in the first place.
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Postby Toccet02 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:03 pm

Oh, and Griff, by the way, I DO wish you all the best with him. I hope he's a genetic goldmine and maybe he is. I'm just sorry no one seems to understand what I was saying.
All shouting does is make you lose your voice.

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Postby griff » Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:55 pm

Reminds me of my favorit Jimmy Buffitt song

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Postby Toccet02 » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:49 am

griff wrote:Reminds me of my favorit Jimmy Buffitt song

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Which is?
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Postby griff » Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:54 pm

Forget the name of the JB song but it's about the night someone cut him of on IH95 and instead of getting mad he decided to write a song

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Postby Toccet02 » Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:17 pm

well, okay, but really, I wish you all the best and I don't like forum yelling. I was too intent on making a logical point without considering that you're probably very sensitive about this. So I'm sorry.Besides it wasn't clear till much later in the thread that you had acquired him. OP was someone else.
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Postby griff » Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:30 pm

why do you keep insisting that your point was logical??

Just leave it alone and go away

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Postby Toccet02 » Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:06 pm

griff wrote:why do you keep insisting that your point was logical??

Just leave it alone and go away

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because it was.
I see you don't care about my apology or nice sentiments so I won't waste my time on you anymore.
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Postby griff » Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:57 pm

no, yes and thank you

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Postby ASB » Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:28 pm

Wow. You're being quite the asshole, Griff.