Here is what people think about horse racing right here

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Thu May 05, 2011 7:39 am

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ingrid-ne ... 57957.html

bam, there you have it. clear as day. until this is seriously addressed, we won't get anywhere. And it starts with the downsizing of racing. we have too many damn horses. too many horses no one wants, no one wants them when they are running and no one damn sure doesn't want them when they are done running.

My own personal opinion is actually not of that post. I am actually of the school that they are livestock at the end of the day. I mean you care for them, but at the end of the day, they are animals. But, it doesn't matter what I feel, it matters what the public feels and this is how the public feels.

Sysonby · Postby **Sysonby** » Thu May 05, 2011 8:35 am

Ingrid Newkirk = PETA and the Huffington Post collects content from everywhere.

You might as well ask a fundamental sect what they think of Las Vegas.

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Thu May 05, 2011 8:37 am

Sysonby wrote:Ingrid Newkirk = PETA and the Huffington Post collects content from everywhere.

You might as well ask a fundamental sect what they think of Las Vegas.

but look at the comments. all those aren't peta members.

Patuxet · Postby **Patuxet** » Thu May 05, 2011 9:02 am

PETA's bottom line seems to be anthropomorphism versus the food chain. If it were consistent it would be picketing Ruth's Chris Steak House and McDonald's.

As an owner if I couldn't find a second home or a re-training facility for a horse I feel I'd be completely within my rights to donate it to a zoological park for humane dispatch and animal consumption.

yukidragon · Postby **yukidragon** » Thu May 05, 2011 9:09 am

As Inspector Todd told Axel Foley.
Take a good look at this ...

Who posted it...
What web site it came from...
Who wrote it...
Who was involved...
Who is this marketed for the Left...
The End.

Shammy Davis · Postby **Shammy Davis** » Thu May 05, 2011 9:52 am

The issue of unwanted and uncared for horses goes well beyond the racing industry. This article is negative opportunism at its best. PETA, along with the likes of the SPCA, has been attacking the racing industry for more years than I can remember and you haven't seen the U. S. or Canadian population jumping out of its skin to ban racing. PETA advances its causes with the assumption that everyone is stupid but them.

Having volunteered at local rescues, IMO that when it comes to the retirement and care of its breed, the TB industry is well ahead of the others. Is it enough? Not hardly, but the situation is a great deal better than with other breeds.

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Thu May 05, 2011 10:13 am

lol you need to tell THEM that

xfactor fan · Postby **xfactor fan** » Thu May 05, 2011 10:16 am

PETA actually is against human animal interaction. They collect animals and have a huge kill rate. Right now they have switched tactics and are working at putting chicken farms out of business via legislation.

If you want to continue to eat meat, keep your dogs and cats--much less your horses, work against PETA and all the other crazies.

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Thu May 05, 2011 10:27 am

xfactor fan wrote:PETA actually is against human animal interaction. They collect animals and have a huge kill rate. Right now they have switched tactics and are working at putting chicken farms out of business via legislation.

If you want to continue to eat meat, keep your dogs and cats--much less your horses, work against PETA and all the other crazies.

so let me get this straight.. they don't want you dealing with animals in any way shape or form?

Crystal · Postby **Crystal** » Thu May 05, 2011 11:10 am

Nope, they think ownership of any animal is wrong.. we should all be living free, in cotton clothing, no leather, drinking from a stream with a big rainbow over it.. fluffy white bunnies hoping over fences..

This is why I eat PETA people.. ask Dub,.

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Thu May 05, 2011 11:37 am

Crystal wrote:Nope, they think ownership of any animal is wrong.. we should all be living free, in cotton clothing, no leather, drinking from a stream with a big rainbow over it.. fluffy white bunnies hoping over fences..

This is why I eat PETA people.. ask Dub,.

funny you should say that, me and this bunny that is sitting outside have been starring at each other for the last 5 minutes.

Sylvie Hebert · Postby **Sylvie Hebert** » Thu May 05, 2011 11:39 am

The idea of a fee on each race or registration or else is not new.Honestly if you cannot afford $350. you cannot afford to raise a horse.May be this money could be used to assure this horse a humane end?I am not rich but if i ever want to raise a horse and i am short of $350. i will not bred that mare,like people who come to me for a free horse because they cannot afford paying even a few hundreds for one,they sure cannot afford horsekeeping and will not have one of mine.
PETA is pushing the envelope i agree but aren't we pushing it too?How many breeders even bother wondering about the destiny of one of theirs...some do but not many.
Why do we complain about those "news" and cannot counteract with any good ones from our side???

Shammy Davis · Postby **Shammy Davis** » Thu May 05, 2011 12:46 pm

I like the idea of owner's returning a small percentage of the purse or possibly a percentage added to the breakage to fund retirement. It's a painless way to fund the retirement of these wonderful horses.

I've just finished reading a couple of books on the industry. One is dated, THE THOROUGHBRED BUSINESS by Jocelyn De Moubray, but it truly exams the industry during the boom times of 80's and evaluates the future potential for declining fan base and revenues. It also compares the differences between racing in the UK and France with that of the U. S. It is well worth the read.

Simply put, horse retirement is just one of the myriad of critical issues the NA racing industry has to deal with. The world is economically on the edge. If you know a cattle, hog, chicken, or lamb farmer in the U. S. you have probably seen a smile on his face. Prices on the hoof have increased 20% since the beginning of the year making the retail meat market skyrocket and projections are that they will continue to climb because of heavy demand in China. Oil and fuel are taking cars off the U. S. roads while China is increasing its demand. Grain prices are skyrocketing. New home construction is rock bottom. Jobs are stale. As for the TB business, AU and NZ have gotten smart. They are marketing horseracing to China using Hong Kong and Singapore as an example of how their country could benefit financially.

Unwanted horses are just one of the problems, but if the "Dinnies," as Jim Squires refers to the members of the JC, NTRA, and BC, don't do something about gaining fan support at the tracks, tackling the "auctioneering" influence on sales, and tightening the enforcement of illegal practices by track professionals , it won't be just the racehorses who are unwanted.

I'm recalling in the movie "SEABISCUIT" when Charles Howard pushes his way through the Mexicana brush to find Tom Smith heating stale coffee over an open fire. That's an example of the kind of "unwanted" the TB industry might be looking at.

Sylvie Hebert · Postby **Sylvie Hebert** » Thu May 05, 2011 1:51 pm

Right on the nail Shammy,too bad we are nailing a coffin...

Shammy Davis · Postby **Shammy Davis** » Thu May 05, 2011 3:08 pm

Crystal wrote:

. . . This is why I eat PETA people.. ask Dub,.

I hope you are taking medication for acid reflux.