Posted by ESPN:
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6478115
Freedom's Flight is a son of Pulpit who could have ended up like Ferdinand....except this is happening in Florida, not Japan.
Freedom's Flight rescued from FLORIDA slaughter house
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the story itself is old, but ESPN just posted info on the documentary yesterday.. of course, just in time for Derby coverage.. This IS NOT HOW WE GET FANS INTO THIS SPORT!! This is how we get Idiots to flock together and protest horse racing. It just takes one head idiot and other follow like moths to light bulbs..
Especially, the comment poster on the ESPN page who commented about the Unbridled G-daughter who ended up being bought by a group from the Kill Pen being a "cousin of Eight Belles"... Really- you had to drag Eight Belles into it?
I also watched the PETA video that the other person posted.. It's 2 minutes of breeding shed footage, a picture of Ferdinand, a shot of a random auction house, a mare on a farm that was rescued, and footage of a COW being slaughtered.. This is why I would like to grill most PETA people for dinner.
360' LifeCycle Fund I doubt will ever be approved by the jockey club. Since it already costs $750-$1,500 to register a horse,, I would never pay over $350 just to do a transfer of ownership.. They are Crazy..
Especially, the comment poster on the ESPN page who commented about the Unbridled G-daughter who ended up being bought by a group from the Kill Pen being a "cousin of Eight Belles"... Really- you had to drag Eight Belles into it?
I also watched the PETA video that the other person posted.. It's 2 minutes of breeding shed footage, a picture of Ferdinand, a shot of a random auction house, a mare on a farm that was rescued, and footage of a COW being slaughtered.. This is why I would like to grill most PETA people for dinner.
360' LifeCycle Fund I doubt will ever be approved by the jockey club. Since it already costs $750-$1,500 to register a horse,, I would never pay over $350 just to do a transfer of ownership.. They are Crazy..
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This is happening today!!!
http://animalrecoverymission.org/
It does give a bad name to racing...but think: the guy that sold one of those TB to these illegal slaughter farm still work at Calder
We cannot police ourselves we sweep all this drug abuse animal abuse and more under the rug...Well the elephant is in the room,what are we gonna do about it?If we keep on pretending he is not there we will push our sport/industry into oblivion.
Stop pretending you are offended face it WE HAVE A PROBLEM let's try to work at solving it...
http://animalrecoverymission.org/
It does give a bad name to racing...but think: the guy that sold one of those TB to these illegal slaughter farm still work at Calder
We cannot police ourselves we sweep all this drug abuse animal abuse and more under the rug...Well the elephant is in the room,what are we gonna do about it?If we keep on pretending he is not there we will push our sport/industry into oblivion.
Stop pretending you are offended face it WE HAVE A PROBLEM let's try to work at solving it...
The sport and industry survive not only because of the champions that are remembered forever but also because of the losers that are so easy to forget...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEiy43TE ... re=related
again Calder horses....
and then some ideas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qac65SV ... re=related
again Calder horses....
and then some ideas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qac65SV ... re=related
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Um I don't understand
I have posted on this site several times of the horses that leave Nv. to go to Utah or Arizona for conditioning for slaughter and no one cares..
There are hundreds that go every year- everywhere now....
Why now? Why choose to complain now when it happens almost everyday?
Nevada is the meca for horse going to slaughter and for people to complain and do nothing about the Mustangs while they continue to breed.....
You guys don't make any sense you scream about over breeding but we have mustangs in the wild here that breed when they want to, and no one cares to stop them. No one here complains about A I but yet I saw a post not to long ago that someone took a well known mare and took her eggs, fertilized them, put them into a few other mares to carry and she had a couple yearlings. How can you complain about that???
No one is caring about the rest of the hundreds that leave ( regardless if they are Quarters, Paints, Appy's) for slaughter.
Help me understand why are you complaining now and not doing anything about it?
I have posted on this site several times of the horses that leave Nv. to go to Utah or Arizona for conditioning for slaughter and no one cares..
There are hundreds that go every year- everywhere now....
Why now? Why choose to complain now when it happens almost everyday?
Nevada is the meca for horse going to slaughter and for people to complain and do nothing about the Mustangs while they continue to breed.....
You guys don't make any sense you scream about over breeding but we have mustangs in the wild here that breed when they want to, and no one cares to stop them. No one here complains about A I but yet I saw a post not to long ago that someone took a well known mare and took her eggs, fertilized them, put them into a few other mares to carry and she had a couple yearlings. How can you complain about that???
No one is caring about the rest of the hundreds that leave ( regardless if they are Quarters, Paints, Appy's) for slaughter.
Help me understand why are you complaining now and not doing anything about it?
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And i have been going to auctions in the USA for years trying to outbid the meat man for racehorses (why TB's?cause i feel i owe since i am in racing but i did rescue a few mules and quarters and others sometimes).It has been going on for a long time i agree like child abuse and thailand selling kids for sex,but the fact is that you have to keep hammering people with it and one day light comes on,or at least you hope so.
In french there is an old christian saying"charite bien ordonnee commence par soi-meme" loosely translated "well organized charity starts with me"this is what i think.
In french there is an old christian saying"charite bien ordonnee commence par soi-meme" loosely translated "well organized charity starts with me"this is what i think.
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And why do you say i do nothing about it?What do you want me to do?Buy a gun and force breeders into submission?This is the thing about a free country,you cannot force anyone to think like you,you have to convince them...not always easy,as you experienced with the mustang.I am against slaughter but pro castration/spaying...of those same mustangs.Same with overbreeding humans in poor country,a bit like the french did in Paris with the pigeons,...
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See sylvie here is the problem---
Going to the auctions ----
Well of course your not going to get all of them.
In my post the best way that I can say this is:
Why is this NEWs to you guys?
This issue has been going on for a very very long time.
Why the calamity over a horse that you find in the news??
Sylvie - You have been going to auctions that have racehorses -- okay fine but Like I said in my post there are hundreds of different breeds all over the U.S. that are going. OKay?
You want to protest, come over to Nevada, join me.
Going to the auctions ----
Well of course your not going to get all of them.
In my post the best way that I can say this is:
Why is this NEWs to you guys?
This issue has been going on for a very very long time.
Why the calamity over a horse that you find in the news??
Sylvie - You have been going to auctions that have racehorses -- okay fine but Like I said in my post there are hundreds of different breeds all over the U.S. that are going. OKay?
You want to protest, come over to Nevada, join me.
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Personally I think that there is a place for slaughterhouses in the USA as an alternative to starving unwanted horses that are neither fit nor sound for another career and have no hope of a helping hand /guardian angel to manage their last few years with care. The biggest problem in this country was the auction house/shipping of meat horses as their treatment at the auctions and in transit was deplorable and gave fodder and ammunition to those totally against humane slaughter. Guess what ?? Now they are sold at the track for around$150 and shipped all the way to Quebec for slaughter instead,nice. Even worse they are hauled down to Mexico for a similar fate . In both cases the US authorities have no jurisdiction and no one to save any that slip through the cracks. As a t-bred trainer/owner I make every effort to find a second career or suitable retirement home for every animal that I own and doubly so if they have been a good servant. I have had a lot of luck but it certainly is getting harder each year.
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right closing down the ones in USA did not solve the problem only made it worst but farfrom the eyes.They get full trucks of them across the border all the time and a lot of these people make lots of cash with it.For us when we go to the track trainers want big $ for unsound horses then each horse need coggin and health now at more than 150$ total per head and we pay taxes at the border.Meat men only need one health for the whole van,no tax and a sealed truck til their place....And lots of horses they get for nothing or almost we cannot compete with them.And actually we cannot sell or give away anything,in this economy...My last load is months ago and i still have a few of them...And nice ones.
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Karen maybe you can understand a little bit better about what is going on in S. Florida if you read the article.. These horses are not being bought at the pig auctions. They are being stolen, at night, from riding stables, back yards, etc.. brought to someone's garage and slaughtered. Or just slaughtered and chopped up on the side of the road.
This is not an person using a whole carcase, it is piece by piece taken for what they want. People is S. Miami are not "starving" like East-African starving. This is just malicious theft. They are not a commercial "meat man" going to buy horses per pound to ship a consignment to a feed lot in AZ or UT to fatten and then ship across the border.. They are just point-blank stealing and slaughtering PETS.
Closing the slaughterplants in the US was a very bad decision for this strained economy. I do not condone slaughter, but it would be viable option for many horses right now.
The USDA is doing what it can to help regulate how the horses bound for Mexico are kept and treated, but it is such a huge problem they cannot do it all. Mexico also does not have the same regulations for their import conditions are many other border crossings so it is far easier to get a sick or injured animal past the CA (Competent Authorities).
This is not an person using a whole carcase, it is piece by piece taken for what they want. People is S. Miami are not "starving" like East-African starving. This is just malicious theft. They are not a commercial "meat man" going to buy horses per pound to ship a consignment to a feed lot in AZ or UT to fatten and then ship across the border.. They are just point-blank stealing and slaughtering PETS.
Closing the slaughterplants in the US was a very bad decision for this strained economy. I do not condone slaughter, but it would be viable option for many horses right now.
The USDA is doing what it can to help regulate how the horses bound for Mexico are kept and treated, but it is such a huge problem they cannot do it all. Mexico also does not have the same regulations for their import conditions are many other border crossings so it is far easier to get a sick or injured animal past the CA (Competent Authorities).
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What, you don't think that they DON'T get stolen here?
I can tell you stories about a quarterhorse mare that was stolen one night and had her uterus REMOVED from her while she living and not under sedation.
Cops were all over the place.
And secondly, I did read the article.
Again like I said before either whole, Peices, stolen or taken to slaughter it still happens all the time.
What, you don't think that they DON'T get stolen here?
I can tell you stories about a quarterhorse mare that was stolen one night and had her uterus REMOVED from her while she living and not under sedation.
Cops were all over the place.
And secondly, I did read the article.
Again like I said before either whole, Peices, stolen or taken to slaughter it still happens all the time.