Notional

Discussion and analysis of thoroughbred stallions.

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Postby reenci » Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:57 am

Madleyn....did you by any chance see notional...?
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Postby madelyn » Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:29 am

Oh sorry, no! I just ran out of time!! But I will be going back - do you have a mare I could help you book to him? I got discounts on every horse I booked this year. I have one client in particular that we got what he wanted for his mares and I saved him $11,000.
So Run for the Roses, as fast as you can.....

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Got a whopper of a filly!!

Postby FiftyYearsPlus » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:46 pm

Missed the foaling by about 10 minutes on Thursday night and when I looked in the stall door all I could see was legs.
My small, grade I runnerup mare dropped a lovely, LARGE, correct chestnut filly.
If I could figure it out, I'd post a photo that would make you rub your eyes in disbelief.

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Postby BargainBlueblood » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:06 pm

What's the name of your G1-placed mare? That has to be an incredible feeling to own one who managed to hit the board at the very highest class.
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Re: Got a whopper of a filly!!

Postby LB » Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:43 am

FiftyYearsPlus wrote:Missed the foaling by about 10 minutes on Thursday night and when I looked in the stall door all I could see was legs.
My small, grade I runnerup mare dropped a lovely, LARGE, correct chestnut filly.
If I could figure it out, I'd post a photo that would make you rub your eyes in disbelief.


Congratulations! And please try to figure the picture thing out. :)

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Postby FiftyYearsPlus » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:00 pm

My mare's name is Enchanting Star (see picture w/pedigree) and I designed her by using Take Charge Lady as a model. I bred her, foaled and raised her, and gave her her early training in Ocala.
I knew Star was special the day she was born.

When I shipped her to Delaware Park as a 2yo, her first 4 works were 37 2/5, 48 2/5, 48 flat bg, and then 34 2/5 and 1:00 2/5. The last was a bullet 5/8s by two seconds out of 37 breezers on a Saturday.
In her first start in July, the 5/8's race ran in 57 2/5 and she ran second. She ran another second, then broke her maiden against a filly named Graeme Six, a Grade I runnerup later and a Grade III winner.
The third place winner in that race was 11 lengths back.

After her win, I entered her in the Frizette Stakes and she went off at 46-1. She ran second beaten a length and a half and Mike Smith came back after the race and said "I'm sorry, I should have won the race.

Picture to follow. Thanks for your interest.

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Postby Morningside » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:37 am

FYP, how's your notional foal looking now?

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Notional filly

Postby FiftyYearsPlus » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:56 pm

Morning:

Before I answer you're question, please understand that I breed, own and train all my horses and since I got back into the business a dozen years ago I've had 100% starters and 90% MSW and/or Allowance winners. Therefore, I don't get too concerned about confirmation being perfect because I think a capable trainer can train around many flaws.

Anyway, this filly appears to be noticeably stamped by her mother. She's very high energy, light to moderate build, but quite a bit leggier than her mother. She's exceptionally quick on her feet like her mother. I should add too that she appears to be quite correct. I would guess that she will be about 16 hands as a 3 year old. I would guess too, that she will be early although you never know for sure.

I haven't seen any of the other of the Notional foals and therefore couldn't tell you if my experience is typical or not. I have noted however, that Notional appears to be off to a very slow start as a sire. But, I, like Tesio, think that the magic is in the mating not just in the sire. I've generally been pretty accurate based on early observations, and I think this filly has considerable promise.

Hope this helps.