Louis's Blog on Inbreeding

[DDT]

Since Affirmed's Triple Crown win there have been 11 horses go for the Crown, I'll Have Another will be the 12th, in addition, 7 horses won two legs of the Crown, KD and Belmont or PK and Belmont, that totals 19 out of 34 years. I would not agree that breeding is a main cause of a lack of Triple Crown winners. Environmental influence is the main reason and the fact that it is a very difficult task to pull off in 5 weeks time. 2 year old sales draw a small percentage of the crop and I believe I'll Have Another was purchased out of a 2 year old sale demonstrating that not all 2 year olds who are trained for the sale suffer greatly from that experience. I would be the first to admit that 2 year old sale preparation can ruin a horse or do enough damage that the horses never get a chance to show their true talent, but as long as there is a market for them there will be breeders and owners that use that avenue to sell.

DDT

[louis finochio]

I'll Have Another has inherited those NP stallions & mares of stamina, turf, late maturing individuals. Thats how his pedigree reads. Thoise FB with 25 or more crosses of Ph. stallions & 15 or more crosses of Ph. mares are bred for speed, thats why those sales previews are hard on those individuals.

IHA is an example of what a balance of speed & stamina can accomplish in our TC races. Those FB will find the spacing of our TC races, too tough for them to navigate.

[louis finochio]

El Prado: You have come down from the clouds, why has it taken you so long to post like your last post. Finally you have caught the big fish. Congrats.

[Crystal]

sarcasm.. it's whats for dinner.

[ElPrado]

No, we still don't agree. I'm not pinning everything on Phalaris like you do. There's too much time since he was at stud. It's 2012, now, not 1970.
It's the owners that want to breed to sprint stallions that develop faster... then expect the result to run 12 furlongs... and then wonder why they can't. It's the trainers that were never taught how to train. The horses are just having drugs poured down their throat and expected to run like horses 60 years and more ago. 60 years ago most of the drugs could be tested for. Now the vets have other drugs to conceal the performance enhancing drugs from tests.
Now we have supposedly innocent trainers... like a recent incident... with performance enhancing drugs in his own desk drawer, and he in turn claims they belong to a vet. That becomes a merry go round of the first order.
It's the 2 year old sales, rushing weanlings onto treadmills for an hour for sales prep and then shoving them back into stalls so that they don't get a ding that would reduce their value and not letting them develop bones.
It's stabling the horses 23 hours a day, which weakens what ligaments they've been allowed to develop... which isn't much. The young horses need pasture time so that the bones and ligaments grow correctly. A play ball in the stall just won't do it.
It's many, many factors.

[BenB]

Louis, I,ll have another is an inbred having a cluster from sires with phalaris influence that was always your point. so he is a pure FB Louis bred.

but within them phalaris descedants we will find late maturing ones with turf ped,s and horses with stamina.

I wrote that sometime ago Phalaris gave that all.

[BenB]

Louis, each time you are writing something, Iam thinking off your advise giving vestal heights valarian roots.

Overhere that would get you, a lifetime ban, do not know how that would be treated in Cal.

[louis finochio]

Our tbs of the past that started 35--75 times, were standing in their stalls 23 hours a day. Our FB of the present have inherited 45 crosses or more of ph. stallions & mares. Our sound tbs of the past didnt have thay many crosses of 1 sire line. They inherited 12 or more different NP sire lines, that is what contributed to their soundness.

Are Calif. dirt tracks, are just as hard today as in the past. The difference is what i posted above.

[ElPrado]

But Louis, there is only one Calif. dirt track now. Santa Anita. The rest are synthetic.

[Crystal]

Out Tbs of the past... get with the present. Instead of obits, post what or who is doing positive CURRENT things with their breeding stock..Kitten's Joy, the Farish's, Winstar, smaller farms, whatever.. Don't be a Debbie Downer..

[louis finochio]

If a breeder wants to become a Fashion Breeder of only speed, he will have to accept the higfh risk of unsoundness that comes with becoming a breeder of Fashion.

If a Non-Fashion breeder wants to breed for a balance of speed & stamina, for soundness, he must look to the past & see how to accomplish his goal.

The outcross NP sire line mare will be brought into a mating with a Ph. sire line stallion. Thus the outcross is made thru the mare not the stallion.

The Non-Fashion breeder has an advantage over the Fashion Breeder. As he can offer the stallions a variety of NP mares thru different NP sire lines. A breeder of Fashion will bring in those Ph. sire line mares to breed to those Ph. sire line stallions.

[BenB]

Louis, now I understands why the young horses in training at SA looks so bad and ,dull: they got too much valerian roots.

[louis finochio]

I havent sold any VR in many moons, I wont sell it ever again. Do your vets make the rounds to your yards on a regular basis?

[ElPrado]

Then why were you shilling it the other day on this site? Remember, someone cast the first stone already.

[brogers]

I'll Have Another has inherited those NP stallions & mares of stamina, turf, late maturing individuals. Thats how his pedigree reads. Thoise FB with 25 or more crosses of Ph. stallions & 15 or more crosses of Ph. mares are bred for speed, thats why those sales previews are hard on those individuals.

IHA is an example of what a balance of speed & stamina can accomplish in our TC races. Those FB will find the spacing of our TC races, too tough for them to navigate.

And with that.....I'll Have Another is scratched from the Belmont with a tendon injury.