Olympic Thoroughbreds & Part-TBs

[jellac]

As we approach the Opening Ceremony of 2012's Summer Olympics I thought I'd post some "INTERESTING EQUESTRIAN FACTS"

• Aside from sailing, equestrian sports are the only Olympic sports in which men and women compete equally.

• Equestrian sports are the only sport that must always be played by teams and Equestrian sports are the only Olympic team sport in which one of the team members is an animal. A team consists of a horse and a rider, so even when “Individual” gold, silver etc. is mentioned it is a medal for a “team” effort.

• Eventer Michael Plumb has been named to a record eight U.S. Olympic teams, a feat no other American athlete can claim.

• Three-time Olympic Show Jumper Michael Matz carried the American flag at the closing ceremonies of 1996 Atlanta Olympic Games. The entire U.S. Olympic team votes to select this person.

• Unlike most other sports, as equestrian athletes age, they gain valuable experience, refine their talents and continue to excel in their sport. This is true of their equine partners as well.

• Just like people, horses need passports to travel internationally.

• When the famous Christmas Tree in Rockefeller Center comes down, it is given to the USET Headquarters and Olympic Training Center in Gladstone, NJ, where it is made into jumps for the training courses.

• There are 6.9 million horses in the U.S.
• 3.6 million people participate in horse shows.

• Americans spend $4.6 billion per year on horse related goods (above the cost of the horse) and $4.6 billion on horse related services (boarding, training, etc.)

• The horse industry pays a total of $1.9 billion in taxes to federal, state and local governments annually.

p/s - Olympic Equestrian events often involve thoroughbred horses or horses of mixed breeding that includes thoroughbred blood. Several of this Olympic equine competitors are Ex-Racehorses.

Come-on - Let's see if we can identify the TB, part-TB horses and their riders!! LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!!

[parlo]

Horses on the Olympic Games even brought out the first female Olympic-winner ever (as far as we know):

Kyniska, Princesse of Sparta, was the owner of a Quadriga, that won the Olympic Horserace in 396 and 392 BC.

Remember: In those times the owner of the Quadriga was honoured as winner, not the driver and not the horses!

[xfactor fan]

While not a Olympic champion, Snowman, the brilliant jumper, and quite likely the most famous "rescue" from the New Holland auction, was the product of an Amish draft mare and a TB remount stallion.

Or do you want only horses in this year's games?

[Mood Swings]

The Canadian Press

CALGARY -- When Ian Millar enters the show-jumping ring aboard Star Power at the 2012 Olympic Games in London, Millar will have appeared in more Olympics than any athlete in history.

The 65-year-old Millar from Perth, Ont., is about to surpass Austrian sailor Hubert Raudaschl, who was an Olympian nine times from 1964 to 1996.

"It's a great thrill to be doing this for the ," 10th timeMillar said Thursday at Spruce Meadows. "I never had a grand plan.

"It was all about the journey because the destination is, at best, very uncertain as it is in life."

Millar's Olympic career now spans 40 years -- 44 if you count the team he was named to in 1980, but didn't get to compete in Moscow because of a boycott.

[Mickey the Marcher]

Every horse at the Olympics is a part TB, as pretty much every bred of sport horse is based on a TB outcross. So talking about part TB at OG is fairly meaningless, unless you qualify it by saying full TB ancestors within a certain number of generations.

[jellac]

True.......let me be more specific: I was referring to those horses who have one parent that is a registered TB.

[jellac]

For Team U.S.A. - below are the Team rosters as to riders and the horses they'll be riding. (This roster is for the three equine competitions that are "official" Olympic equestrian sports only. I put Otis Barbotierre in bold as I know he is a TB and a former race horse to boot. Are there some other registered TB among these or possibally some 1/2 TB? Fairly certain that none of the dressage horses are full TBs, not sure if as to any part-TB.

The United States Equestrian Federation (USEF) has named its 2012 Olympic Teams in dressage, eventing, and jumping. These teams are comprised of a mix of veterans and rookies, men and women from across the country with 17 Olympic Games between them. Seven men, six women. eight geldings, three mares, and two stallions make up the teams.

Dressage

•Jan Ebeling (Moorpark, Calif.) on Amy Ebeling, Beth Meyers, and Ann Romney's Rafalca
•Tina Konyot (Palm City, Fla.) on her own and John Byrialsen's Calecto V
•Steffen Peters (San Diego, Calif.) on Four Winds Farm's Ravel
•Adrienne Lyle (Ketchum, Idaho) on Peggy Thomas' Wizard (Individual)


Eventing

•Will Coleman (Gordonsville, Va.) on Jim Wildasin's Twizzel
•Tiana Coudray (Ojai, Calif.) on Jatial, Inc.'s Ringwood Magister
•Phillip Dutton (West Grove, Pa.) on Jim and Arden Wildasin's Mystery Whisper
•Boyd Martin (Cochranville, Pa.) on the Otis Barbotiere Syndicate's Otis Barbotiere
•Karen O'Connor (Ocala, Fla.) on the Mr. Medicott Syndicate's Mr. Medicott


Jumping

•Rich Fellers (Sherwood, Ore.) on Mollie and Harry Chapman's Flexible
•Reed Kessler (Lexington, Ky.) on her own Cylana
•Beezie Madden (Cazenovia, N.Y.) on Coral Reef Ranch's Coral Reef Via Volo
•McLain Ward (Brewster N.Y.) on Grant Road Partners' Antares F
•Charlie Jayne (Elgin, Ill.) on Pony Lane Farm's Chill R Z (Traveling Reserve)


Inviting those with knowledge of their own countries' team members to post those rosters please. I think it will be interesting to see which country's team fields "the most thoroughly Thoroughbred" team and how they do once the Games begin!

[kimberley mine]

The New Zealanders have a full TB and a couple of half-TB:

*Jonathan Paget, riding the incomparable Clifton Promise:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/clifton+promise

Both his development horses, Bulletproof and Clifton Lush, are also NZ TB. I think Bullet Proof may be unregistered but is by a VERY good sire, Grosvenor, and out of a nice producing mare. Clifton Eventing finds good TB for eventing, either homebreds or off the track.

*Caroline Powell is riding Lenamore, an Irish Draught Sport Horse out of the thoroughbred mare Karinella:

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/lenamore

Her second-string horse, Boston Two Tip, is a French-bred thoroughbred: http://manage2.badminton-horse.co.uk/ri ... 5_2011.pdf

*Andrew Nicholson's mount Nereo is by the Spanish-bred thoroughbred stallion Fines, out of a Hanoverian mare. His development string are also out by Fines, and in New Zealand he has recently competed a full NZ TB named Shady Grey.

[kimberley mine]

For the British team:

Zara Phillips is riding High Kingdom, an IDSH by the Irish tb Master Imp.

Mary King is riding Imperial Cavalier, also IDSH, and whose broodmare sire is Master Imp's sire Imperius.

Tina Cook is riding the full TB Miner's Frolic: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/miners+frolic

[kimberley mine]

For the Australians:

Megan Jones is riding Kirby Park Allofasudden, AJC registered name Red Ruski, by Rustic Amber and out of the Luskin Star mare Passionate. Check him out--his female line is just gorgeous for sport.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/red+ruski

[pfrsue]

I put Otis Barbotierre in bold as I know he is a TB and a former race horse to boot. Are there some other registered TB among these or possibally some 1/2 TB?

I looked up most of the horses via the FEI Database online. Jellac, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the FEI has Otis Barbotierre listed as a Selle Francais. His sire is Quidam du Ravel, a well known jumping stallion and definitely not a Thoroughbred. :/ I'm sorry.

You can definitely double check me: https://data.fei.org/Horse/Search.aspx
Another fun site to look them up is: http://www.sporthorse-data.com/

Dressage

Rafalca – Oldenburg
Calecto – Danish Warmblood
Ravel – Dutch Warmblood
Wizard – Oldenburg


Show Jumping

Coral Reef Via Volo – Belgian Warmblood
Flexible - Irish Sport Horse
Chill R Z – Belgian Zangerscheide
Antares F – Wurttemberger
Cylana – Belgian Warmblood

Eventing

Twizzel – Westphalian
Ringwood Magister – Irish Sport Horse
Mystery Whisper – “Warmblood” By Richmeed Medallion (British Warmblood) out of Socialite by Salute
Otis Barbotiere – Selle Francais
Mr Medicott - Irish Sport Horse

[jellac]

Oh dear ! pfrsue - You are quite right that I am wrong about Otis Barbotierre being TB. I think I must have gotten him mentally switched with Neville Bardos transcribing from one site of information on the web to my post.

My bad, my bad

Although the roster I posted didn't mention Neville Bardos another site indicates he is in fact overseas with the US Olympic team in preparation for the Games.

[pfrsue]

No big deal, jellac! I would have gotten those two names mixed up too! And yep, Neville Bardos is indeed a TB. Is he an alternate?

Zara Phillips is riding High Kingdom, an IDSH by the Irish tb Master Imp.

If Master's Imp is an Irish TB, then that makes Ringwood Magister on the U.S. Eventing team a 1/2 TB, as he has the same sire.

(Slight other point of interest is that Flexible and Mr Medicott on the U.S. team are both by the Irish Sport Horse, Cruising.)

[jellac]

Soooo, do any of the more technologically less challenged on this board have an inkling of how one goes about getting to view the Equestrian events on US television/streaming video via the net?/?????

I checked out HRTV & TVG this morning early hoping to catch the last of this Day 1 of eventing competition but had no luck. Haven't a clue where to go next...so all thoughts/suggestions/knowledge are welcome!!!

[ElPrado]

(All times Eastern)

Saturday, July 28

Individual and team eventing dressage: 1:45 pm. - 2:45 pm. (NBC Sports Network)

Sunday, July 29

Individual and team eventing dressage: 2:15 pm. - 3:00 pm. (NBC Sports Network)

Monday, July 30

Individual and team eventing - Cross Country (LIVE): 8:15 am. - 12:45 pm. (NBC Sports Network)

Tuesday, July 31

Eventing - Team Jumping final (LIVE): 6:00 am. - 8:15 am. (NBC Sports Network)

Eventing - Individual Jumping final (LIVE): 9:15 am. - 10:30 am. (NBC Sports Network)

Thursday, August 2

Dressage qualifying: 1:30 pm. - 2:30 pm. (MSNBC)

Friday, August 3

Dressage qualifying: 12:30 pm. - 1:30 pm. (MSNBC)

Saturday, August 4

Jumping qualifying: 3:30 pm. - 4:30 pm. (NBC Sports Network)

Sunday, August 5

Team jumping final - first round: 2:30pm - 3:00pm (NBC)

Monday, August 6

Team jumping final - second round: 1:00 pm. - 1:45 pm. (NBC)

Tuesday, August 7

Team dressage final (LIVE): 10:45 am. - 11:30 am. (NBC Sports Network)

Wednesday, August 8

Individual jumping final: 11:00 am. - 11:30 am. (NBC)

Thursday, August 9



You're welcome.
Individual Dressage final (LIVE): 9:00 am. - 11:00 am. (MSNBC)