Doping While Training - The Glut of Drugs: California
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here is another one currently on the list
TRIBAL LAW T 10/26/2013 MEDICATION SPAWR LATS
http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Result ... registry=T
TRIBAL LAW T 10/26/2013 MEDICATION SPAWR LATS
http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Result ... registry=T
valjoe wrote:you need to scroll down on the list Qhorses are on top, also its legal to train on steroids so no catching here out of competition, as I said you re only required to go on the vet list and cant race while on it
Hi Val,
OK ,thanks...I think I get it? So I assume they put them on the vet list, because they were treated for an illness or injury with a drug that has a 60 day WD. In this way they can't race till the drug clears their system. This makes sense under those condition, otherwise the trainer of that horse would get a positive for using steroids for other then therapeutic reasons....and would receive a fine and suspension. There were a lot of fines and suspensions of trainers over the steroid thresholds in California. TJ
valjoe wrote:then why are they working while injured or sick presumably ?
Hi Val,
Because they may have needed steroids in the treatment of an illness. Although they aren't permitted to race till the drug clears their system, they are still able to train. If they stopped training them for 60 days, it would take them another 90 days to get them ready to race again. I would imagine if they received steroids for an injury, they would need more time before they started them right back into training while on the 60 day list. TJ
valjoe wrote:what kind of an illness?, if they're so ill to need anabolic steroids they shouldn't be doing speed work, and how come only horses in certain barns get ill to need it.
valjoe wrote:also sick horse cant and will not work even slow, and those are working bullets, these are not sick or injured horses
Hi Val,
Ok I see your point...when I referred to steroids I wasn't being specific. Anabolic steroid use is more used for debilitating conditions in the horse, rather then illness per say. These drugs help rebuild tissues that are weakened due to disease, injury, surgery and to alleviate anemia, lethargy and in some cases depression. They are labeled for usage with debilitated or weakened animals, and are prescribed to stimulate appetite, increase weight gain, strength, and vigor....as we know. Yet we are still not certain of the medication reasons for which these horses were added to the vet list. It may not actually be for anabolic steroids? Then again the few horses that are listed on the vet list for medication of the many on the list....could indicate a misuse of the drug equal to the much smaller percentage of trainers who cheat and purposely abuse the rules? I believe the therapeutic use of anabolic steroids will continue to be looked into and eventually be more restricted or outright banned. The risks of anabolic steroid use usually outweighs the intended benefits. TJ
Hi Val,
OK, I found the ruling and you are correct, the drug was most likely anabolic steroids after reading the ruling. This was what I assumed was the reasoning behind the medication designation in the first place when I said this in a earlier post..."So I assume they put them on the vet list, because they were treated for an illness or injury with a drug that has a 60 day WD. In this way they can't race till the drug clears their system. This makes sense under those condition, otherwise the trainer of that horse would get a positive for using steroids for other then therapeutic reasons....and would receive a fine and suspension." Below is the rule which explains the why and how of the medication designation of horses placed on the vet list. TJ
(5) Any horse to which an anabolic steroid has been administered in order to assist in
the recovery from illness or injury may be placed on the veterinarian’s list in order
to monitor the concentration of the drug or metabolite in urine. After the
concentration has fallen below the designated threshold for the administrated AAS,
the horse is eligible to be removed from the list.
OK, I found the ruling and you are correct, the drug was most likely anabolic steroids after reading the ruling. This was what I assumed was the reasoning behind the medication designation in the first place when I said this in a earlier post..."So I assume they put them on the vet list, because they were treated for an illness or injury with a drug that has a 60 day WD. In this way they can't race till the drug clears their system. This makes sense under those condition, otherwise the trainer of that horse would get a positive for using steroids for other then therapeutic reasons....and would receive a fine and suspension." Below is the rule which explains the why and how of the medication designation of horses placed on the vet list. TJ
(5) Any horse to which an anabolic steroid has been administered in order to assist in
the recovery from illness or injury may be placed on the veterinarian’s list in order
to monitor the concentration of the drug or metabolite in urine. After the
concentration has fallen below the designated threshold for the administrated AAS,
the horse is eligible to be removed from the list.
Last edited by TJ on Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:17 am, edited 1 time in total.