My TB mare's JC name is MYBELLE OF THEBALL - her Dam was Michelle Belle and sire RJ's Harri. Can anyone tell me anyhing about this 'family' I'm new to pedigree things...good pedigree, poor etc?[/b]
Also I would like any info other than what I can read on Delmar about her Dam Michelle Belle - still around, how many offspring etc....where she might be. Thanks for your help!
Please help with pedigree/quality/offspring
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Hi, I'll append below what I have from the '02 APR on your mare's 1st, 2nd & 3rd dams. As you can see 3dam was a stakes winner & the line has produced a couple more. I don't know very much about R J's Harri , other than the fact that he was standing here in Texas for a while at a farm breeding for sport horses & color.
Copyright Bloodstock Research Information Services, Inc., 2002
MICHELLE BELLE, 1980, Majestic Prince- Moll Buzzer by No Robbery.
YRS ST WN PL SH EARNED SSI
1984 Miss Bold Win,f,Bold Josh 2 21 1 2 3 3,799 0.17
North America 2 YO Record 4 0 0 0 0
North America Dirt Sprints 11 0 1 1 1,005
North America Dirt Routes 10 1 1 2 2,794
North America Muddy/Sloppy 1 0 0 0 40
DP = 9-4-1-0-0 DI = 27.00 CD = 1.57
1989 Slipped
1990 Vonnie Wind Walker,f,Creamette City 1 2 0 0 0 0 0.00
North America Dirt Sprints 2 0 0 0 0
North America Muddy/Sloppy 1 0 0 0 0
DP = 13-7-8-0-0 DI = 6.00 CD = 1.18
1991 Text John,g,Text 2 18 1 0 1 2,370 0.08
North America Turf Record 1 0 0 0 0
North America Dirt Sprints 9 1 0 0 1,794
North America Dirt Routes 8 0 0 1 576
DP = 11-6-6-1-0 DI = 5.00 CD = 1.13
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
HEROCT 1992 10 $1,300 $2,369 ylg 6/ 8 $2,000
1992 Mambo Prince,c,Mambo 7 73 11 8 15 84,175 0.82
North America 2 YO Record 9 3 2 2 32,250
North America Turf Record 22 2 3 5 19,868
North America Dirt Sprints 16 3 3 4 37,268
North America Dirt Routes 35 6 2 6 27,039
North America Muddy/Sloppy 3 0 0 1 972
DP = 15-4-7-0-0 DI = 6.43 CD = 1.31
At 2 2nd Blue Ribbon Classic Tb. Futurity (O) (49,669), 3rd Ruidoso Tb.
Futurity -L (76,655), Santa Fe Futurity -L (67,079)
At 3 3rd Blue Ribbon Classic Tb. Derby (N) (20,581)
1993 Esperanza Mambo,c,Mambo 7 57 6 6 5 32,671 0.31
North America 2 YO Record 2 0 0 0 0
North America Turf Record 5 0 0 0 770
North America Dirt Sprints 50 6 6 4 31,527
North America Dirt Routes 2 0 0 0 374
North America Muddy/Sloppy 7 2 1 0 7,038
DP = 15-4-7-0-0 DI = 6.43 CD = 1.31
1994 Slipped
1995 Cowboy Trick,g,Western Trick 5 34 3 3 3 20,005 0.25
North America 2 YO Record 7 2 1 0 11,031
North America Turf Record 3 0 0 0 549
North America Dirt Sprints 30 3 3 3 19,380
North America Dirt Routes 1 0 0 0 76
North America Muddy/Sloppy 2 0 1 0 8,518
DP = 10-2-10-0-0 DI = 3.40 CD = 1.00
At 2 2nd Blue Ribbon Classic Tb Futurity (O) (42,210)
2000 Mybelle Of Theball,f,R Js Harri Unraced
DP = 6-2-2-0-0 DI = 9.00 CD = 1.40
SIRE 0.00 Spi, 0str, 0%2yo, 0%1st, 0%Mud/0sts, 0%Tf/0sts, AWD 0.0
DAM(ur) 0.33 Dpi, 4 2yostr/2wnr, 13%Mud/16sts, 4 Tfstr/1wnr, AWD 7.0
MOLL BUZZER, 1972, No Robbery- Deb Star by One Count.
YRS ST WN PL SH EARNED SSI
1978 Sharp Moll,f,Hatchet Man 2 15 2 1 2 21,895 1.59
DP = 0-6-9-1-0 DI = 1.91 CD = 0.31
1979 Perfect Profile,f,Stop The Music 2 10 2 2 1 18,500 1.89
DP = 4-6-14-0-0 DI = 2.43 CD = 0.58
1980 Michelle Belle,f,Majestic Prince Unraced
DP = 13-6-7-0-0 DI = 6.43 CD = 1.23
1981 Alarm Clock,f,Timeless Moment 1 2 0 0 0 0 0.00
DP = 2-10-10-0-0 DI = 3.40 CD = 0.64
1982 Barren
1983 Barren
1984 RING FOR PEACE,c,Hold Your Peace 4 67 7 14 16 185,760 2.47
North America 2 YO Record 12 3 2 3 58,520
North America Turf Record 8 0 1 0 6,625
North America Dirt Sprints 36 4 7 10 105,842
North America Dirt Routes 23 3 6 5 73,293
North America Muddy/Sloppy 4 1 0 0 13,130
DP = 4-11-10-1-0 DI = 3.33 CD = 0.69
At 2 Won Allegheny S. (O) (40,000), 2nd Dover S. (O) (15,000), 3rd Nilo
Bay S. (R) (O) (15,000)
At 3 2nd Philmont S. (O) (25,000), Hemlock S. (R) (O) (18,000), 3rd
Stratford S. (R) (O) (18,000), 4th Garden State S. -G3 (150,000)
1985 In Admiration,c,Silver Buck 6 51 10 2 5 42,537 0.93
North America 2 YO Record 3 1 0 1 11,040
North America Dirt Sprints 31 6 2 3 29,193
North America Dirt Routes 20 4 0 2 13,344
North America Muddy/Sloppy 4 0 0 0 0
DP = 1-6-19-0-0 DI = 1.74 CD = 0.31
1986 Barren
1987 Molly Mccann,f,Mccann 4 24 2 2 5 14,032 0.50
North America 2 YO Record 1 0 1 0 1,240
North America Turf Record 2 0 0 0 0
North America Dirt Sprints 20 2 2 5 13,882
North America Dirt Routes 2 0 0 0 150
DP = 1-2-11-0-0 DI = 1.55 CD = 0.29
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEESEP 1988 2665 $30,000 $14,050 ylg ( 1/ 4) NA
1988 Ring For Pleasure,c,Foolish Pleasure 2 3 0 0 0 0 0.00
North America 2 YO Record 1 0 0 0 0
North America Dirt Sprints 2 0 0 0 0
North America Dirt Routes 1 0 0 0 0
DP = 12-7-6-0-1 DI = 5.50 CD = 1.12
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEESEP 1989 1306 $19,000 $32,887 ylg (16/23) NA
CALMAR 1990 142 $14,000 $48,222 2yo ( 7/ 9) NA
1989 Stonewall Flat,c,Capote 3 10 1 0 1 7,620 0.50
North America 2 YO Record 3 1 0 0 5,400
North America Dirt Sprints 9 1 0 1 7,085
North America Dirt Routes 1 0 0 0 535
North America Muddy/Sloppy 2 0 0 0 0
DP = 6-2-6-0-0 DI = 3.67 CD = 1.00
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEESEP 1990 660 $145,000 $41,618 ylg ( 2/33) $35,000
1990 Barren
1991 Skipped Town,f,Skip Trial 1 1 0 0 0 53 0.03
North America Dirt Sprints 1 0 0 0 53
DP = 2-4-8-0-0 DI = 2.50 CD = 0.57
1992 Barren
1993 Internationalfalls,c,Crossed Swords 1 1 0 0 0 60 0.02
North America 2 YO Record 1 0 0 0 60
North America Dirt Sprints 1 0 0 0 60
DP = 5-4-11-0-0 DI = 2.64 CD = 0.70
DEB STAR, 1962, One Count- Rock Garden by King Cole.
YRS ST WN PL SH EARNED SSI
1967 Viewette,f,Clem 4 58 7 9 11 26,419 1.38
DP = 2-1-11-0-0 DI = 1.55 CD = 0.36
1968 Barren
1969 Barren
1971 Sam N Son,c,Amastar 7 94 16 12 10 37,521 0.84
DP = 5-0-7-0-0 DI = 2.43 CD = 0.83
1972 MOLL BUZZER,f,No Robbery 4 41 7 5 8 64,532 3.19
DP = 2-5-7-0-0 DI = 3.00 CD = 0.64
At 3 Won New Hope S. -G3 (25,000)
1974 Deb's Isle,c,Fiddle Isle 8 63 14 9 7 55,579 1.56
DP = 9-0-5-0-0 DI = 4.60 CD = 1.29
1980 Tere's Debutante,f,Terete 1 7 0 0 0 962 0.14
DP = 6-5-5-0-0 DI = 5.40 CD = 1.06
1981 Terre's Marie,f,Terete 1 13 0 2 2 5,330 0.42
DP = 6-5-5-0-0 DI = 5.40 CD = 1.06
1982 Barren
1983 One Bold Star,f,Terete 2 24 2 2 5 6,476 0.27
North America Dirt Sprints 20 1 2 5 5,036
North America Dirt Routes 4 1 0 0 1,440
DP = 6-5-5-0-0 DI = 5.40 CD = 1.06
1984 Sassy Star,c,Sauvage (Fr) 2 13 0 0 0 420 0.02
North America Dirt Sprints 3 0 0 0 0
North America Dirt Routes 10 0 0 0 420
North America Muddy/Sloppy 3 0 0 0 0
DP = 0-0-4-0-6 DI = 0.25 CD = -1.20
1985 Rock Age,c,Sauvage (Fr) Unraced
DP = 0-0-4-0-6 DI = 0.25 CD = -1.20
1987 Slipped
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MICHELLE BELLE, 1980, Majestic Prince- Moll Buzzer by No Robbery.
YRS ST WN PL SH EARNED SSI
1984 Miss Bold Win,f,Bold Josh 2 21 1 2 3 3,799 0.17
North America 2 YO Record 4 0 0 0 0
North America Dirt Sprints 11 0 1 1 1,005
North America Dirt Routes 10 1 1 2 2,794
North America Muddy/Sloppy 1 0 0 0 40
DP = 9-4-1-0-0 DI = 27.00 CD = 1.57
1989 Slipped
1990 Vonnie Wind Walker,f,Creamette City 1 2 0 0 0 0 0.00
North America Dirt Sprints 2 0 0 0 0
North America Muddy/Sloppy 1 0 0 0 0
DP = 13-7-8-0-0 DI = 6.00 CD = 1.18
1991 Text John,g,Text 2 18 1 0 1 2,370 0.08
North America Turf Record 1 0 0 0 0
North America Dirt Sprints 9 1 0 0 1,794
North America Dirt Routes 8 0 0 1 576
DP = 11-6-6-1-0 DI = 5.00 CD = 1.13
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
HEROCT 1992 10 $1,300 $2,369 ylg 6/ 8 $2,000
1992 Mambo Prince,c,Mambo 7 73 11 8 15 84,175 0.82
North America 2 YO Record 9 3 2 2 32,250
North America Turf Record 22 2 3 5 19,868
North America Dirt Sprints 16 3 3 4 37,268
North America Dirt Routes 35 6 2 6 27,039
North America Muddy/Sloppy 3 0 0 1 972
DP = 15-4-7-0-0 DI = 6.43 CD = 1.31
At 2 2nd Blue Ribbon Classic Tb. Futurity (O) (49,669), 3rd Ruidoso Tb.
Futurity -L (76,655), Santa Fe Futurity -L (67,079)
At 3 3rd Blue Ribbon Classic Tb. Derby (N) (20,581)
1993 Esperanza Mambo,c,Mambo 7 57 6 6 5 32,671 0.31
North America 2 YO Record 2 0 0 0 0
North America Turf Record 5 0 0 0 770
North America Dirt Sprints 50 6 6 4 31,527
North America Dirt Routes 2 0 0 0 374
North America Muddy/Sloppy 7 2 1 0 7,038
DP = 15-4-7-0-0 DI = 6.43 CD = 1.31
1994 Slipped
1995 Cowboy Trick,g,Western Trick 5 34 3 3 3 20,005 0.25
North America 2 YO Record 7 2 1 0 11,031
North America Turf Record 3 0 0 0 549
North America Dirt Sprints 30 3 3 3 19,380
North America Dirt Routes 1 0 0 0 76
North America Muddy/Sloppy 2 0 1 0 8,518
DP = 10-2-10-0-0 DI = 3.40 CD = 1.00
At 2 2nd Blue Ribbon Classic Tb Futurity (O) (42,210)
2000 Mybelle Of Theball,f,R Js Harri Unraced
DP = 6-2-2-0-0 DI = 9.00 CD = 1.40
SIRE 0.00 Spi, 0str, 0%2yo, 0%1st, 0%Mud/0sts, 0%Tf/0sts, AWD 0.0
DAM(ur) 0.33 Dpi, 4 2yostr/2wnr, 13%Mud/16sts, 4 Tfstr/1wnr, AWD 7.0
MOLL BUZZER, 1972, No Robbery- Deb Star by One Count.
YRS ST WN PL SH EARNED SSI
1978 Sharp Moll,f,Hatchet Man 2 15 2 1 2 21,895 1.59
DP = 0-6-9-1-0 DI = 1.91 CD = 0.31
1979 Perfect Profile,f,Stop The Music 2 10 2 2 1 18,500 1.89
DP = 4-6-14-0-0 DI = 2.43 CD = 0.58
1980 Michelle Belle,f,Majestic Prince Unraced
DP = 13-6-7-0-0 DI = 6.43 CD = 1.23
1981 Alarm Clock,f,Timeless Moment 1 2 0 0 0 0 0.00
DP = 2-10-10-0-0 DI = 3.40 CD = 0.64
1982 Barren
1983 Barren
1984 RING FOR PEACE,c,Hold Your Peace 4 67 7 14 16 185,760 2.47
North America 2 YO Record 12 3 2 3 58,520
North America Turf Record 8 0 1 0 6,625
North America Dirt Sprints 36 4 7 10 105,842
North America Dirt Routes 23 3 6 5 73,293
North America Muddy/Sloppy 4 1 0 0 13,130
DP = 4-11-10-1-0 DI = 3.33 CD = 0.69
At 2 Won Allegheny S. (O) (40,000), 2nd Dover S. (O) (15,000), 3rd Nilo
Bay S. (R) (O) (15,000)
At 3 2nd Philmont S. (O) (25,000), Hemlock S. (R) (O) (18,000), 3rd
Stratford S. (R) (O) (18,000), 4th Garden State S. -G3 (150,000)
1985 In Admiration,c,Silver Buck 6 51 10 2 5 42,537 0.93
North America 2 YO Record 3 1 0 1 11,040
North America Dirt Sprints 31 6 2 3 29,193
North America Dirt Routes 20 4 0 2 13,344
North America Muddy/Sloppy 4 0 0 0 0
DP = 1-6-19-0-0 DI = 1.74 CD = 0.31
1986 Barren
1987 Molly Mccann,f,Mccann 4 24 2 2 5 14,032 0.50
North America 2 YO Record 1 0 1 0 1,240
North America Turf Record 2 0 0 0 0
North America Dirt Sprints 20 2 2 5 13,882
North America Dirt Routes 2 0 0 0 150
DP = 1-2-11-0-0 DI = 1.55 CD = 0.29
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEESEP 1988 2665 $30,000 $14,050 ylg ( 1/ 4) NA
1988 Ring For Pleasure,c,Foolish Pleasure 2 3 0 0 0 0 0.00
North America 2 YO Record 1 0 0 0 0
North America Dirt Sprints 2 0 0 0 0
North America Dirt Routes 1 0 0 0 0
DP = 12-7-6-0-1 DI = 5.50 CD = 1.12
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEESEP 1989 1306 $19,000 $32,887 ylg (16/23) NA
CALMAR 1990 142 $14,000 $48,222 2yo ( 7/ 9) NA
1989 Stonewall Flat,c,Capote 3 10 1 0 1 7,620 0.50
North America 2 YO Record 3 1 0 0 5,400
North America Dirt Sprints 9 1 0 1 7,085
North America Dirt Routes 1 0 0 0 535
North America Muddy/Sloppy 2 0 0 0 0
DP = 6-2-6-0-0 DI = 3.67 CD = 1.00
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEESEP 1990 660 $145,000 $41,618 ylg ( 2/33) $35,000
1990 Barren
1991 Skipped Town,f,Skip Trial 1 1 0 0 0 53 0.03
North America Dirt Sprints 1 0 0 0 53
DP = 2-4-8-0-0 DI = 2.50 CD = 0.57
1992 Barren
1993 Internationalfalls,c,Crossed Swords 1 1 0 0 0 60 0.02
North America 2 YO Record 1 0 0 0 60
North America Dirt Sprints 1 0 0 0 60
DP = 5-4-11-0-0 DI = 2.64 CD = 0.70
DEB STAR, 1962, One Count- Rock Garden by King Cole.
YRS ST WN PL SH EARNED SSI
1967 Viewette,f,Clem 4 58 7 9 11 26,419 1.38
DP = 2-1-11-0-0 DI = 1.55 CD = 0.36
1968 Barren
1969 Barren
1971 Sam N Son,c,Amastar 7 94 16 12 10 37,521 0.84
DP = 5-0-7-0-0 DI = 2.43 CD = 0.83
1972 MOLL BUZZER,f,No Robbery 4 41 7 5 8 64,532 3.19
DP = 2-5-7-0-0 DI = 3.00 CD = 0.64
At 3 Won New Hope S. -G3 (25,000)
1974 Deb's Isle,c,Fiddle Isle 8 63 14 9 7 55,579 1.56
DP = 9-0-5-0-0 DI = 4.60 CD = 1.29
1980 Tere's Debutante,f,Terete 1 7 0 0 0 962 0.14
DP = 6-5-5-0-0 DI = 5.40 CD = 1.06
1981 Terre's Marie,f,Terete 1 13 0 2 2 5,330 0.42
DP = 6-5-5-0-0 DI = 5.40 CD = 1.06
1982 Barren
1983 One Bold Star,f,Terete 2 24 2 2 5 6,476 0.27
North America Dirt Sprints 20 1 2 5 5,036
North America Dirt Routes 4 1 0 0 1,440
DP = 6-5-5-0-0 DI = 5.40 CD = 1.06
1984 Sassy Star,c,Sauvage (Fr) 2 13 0 0 0 420 0.02
North America Dirt Sprints 3 0 0 0 0
North America Dirt Routes 10 0 0 0 420
North America Muddy/Sloppy 3 0 0 0 0
DP = 0-0-4-0-6 DI = 0.25 CD = -1.20
1985 Rock Age,c,Sauvage (Fr) Unraced
DP = 0-0-4-0-6 DI = 0.25 CD = -1.20
1987 Slipped
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MYBELLE OF THEBALL
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pardon?
Sorry I don't know much about TB blood lines - what do you mean you are appaled? laymans terms would be good for me - truly bad bloodlines, good, whatever....I don't understand those lists just wanted an idea about her.
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JimbleBrimble
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LOL
LOL @ you are appalled!
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Wow, JimbleBrimble, aren't you about as helpful as a sharp stick in the eye...
Mybelle of theball - I didn't say anything about being appalled. I did use the term append, in the context of entering text taken directly from the American Produce Record into my previous message. The APR is a listing of all mares, their produce(foals) and racing record of their produce in North America as registered w/ the Jockey Club. I have the '02 version and your mares' dam may have produce not shown in it.
Below are the instructions for how to read the record, as taken from the APR. Hopefully all the numbers will make more sense to you after reading it. Your mare's tail female line (her dam, her dam's dam, etc.) has produced some stakes winners. That's good - especially if you're breeding to race.
Her sire raced 23 times w/ 3 wins(non-stakes), 4 seconds and 2 thirds.
Saw the photos of your mare's foal - congrats to you, the new mom and her baby! Who's the baby's sire?
Mybelle of theball - I didn't say anything about being appalled. I did use the term append, in the context of entering text taken directly from the American Produce Record into my previous message. The APR is a listing of all mares, their produce(foals) and racing record of their produce in North America as registered w/ the Jockey Club. I have the '02 version and your mares' dam may have produce not shown in it.
Below are the instructions for how to read the record, as taken from the APR. Hopefully all the numbers will make more sense to you after reading it. Your mare's tail female line (her dam, her dam's dam, etc.) has produced some stakes winners. That's good - especially if you're breeding to race.
Saw the photos of your mare's foal - congrats to you, the new mom and her baby! Who's the baby's sire?
Record Display Information
This page gives you the full information on foals for a particular dam.
The Information Following A Foals Name Contains:
- The sex and sire of the foal.
- Total years raced through 2001.
- Number of firsts, seconds or thirds through 2001.
- Earnings through 2001.
- SSI - Standard Starts Index (see Explanation of Standard Starts Index).
- If the foal won as a first-time starter as a two-year-old or as a first-time starter on the turf, it will be designated by an (*) asterisk.
- Dosage - Profile, Index and Center of Distribution of the foal. (Click Here for a full explanation.)
- Most recent public auction price information if sold as a weanling, yearling or two-year-old from 1986 through 2001.
- All two- and three-year-olds include vital pedigree statistics on the sire and dam.
If a dam has a year missing chronologically in her produce record, it indicates she has no registered foal for that year.
If a foal has a stakes record, it is listed directly below its name together with the added money and other pertinent information regarding the stakes race. All foals which are stakes winners will appear on your screen in BOLD CAPITAL LETTERS. All foals which are stakes-placed will appear on your screen in Bold Upper and Lower Case Letters.
There will be instances where there are dams or foals with the same names. It is wise to keep the dam or foals sire name handy for identification in order not to confuse horses.
EXPLANATION OF STANDARD STARTS INDEX
The Standard Starts Index is a numerical representation of a runners race record in comparison with all other runners regardless of years raced, number of starts and sex. The higher the number, the better the runner. For comparison purposes, a runner with an SSI of 32.19 is in the top 0.01% of all runners; and a runner with an SSI of 1.00 is in the top 21.0% of all runner. It is also important to know that 50% of all runners have an SSI of 0.36 or better; and 13.5% of all runners earned no money and have an SSI of 0.00.
EXPLANATION OF PEDIGREE STATISTICS FOR TWO- AND THREE-YEAR-OLDS
SIRE 6.75SPI, 418str, 34%2yo, 8%1st, 19%mud/470sts, 10%turf/730sts, AWD 7.7
DAM (ur) 2.33DPI, 2 2yostr/1wnr, 0%mud/5sts, 1Tfstr/0wnr, AWD 6.8
Sire information includes: Sire Production Index (SPI), number of starters, percentage of two-year-old winners and percentage of first-time winners, percentage of wins in the mud and number of starts, percentage of winners on the turf and number of starts, and Average Winning Distance (AWD) in furlongs for the sires runners. Dam information includes: Dams race record (ur=unraced in this sample), Dam Production Index (DPI), number of two-year-old starters and winners, percentage of wins in the mud and number of starts, number of turf starters and winners, and Average Winning Distance (AWD) in furlongs for the dams runners.
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MYBELLE OF THEBALL
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Pan Zareta - so sorry!
I totally mis-read what you had written although I can't say I was offended as I don't breed her for racing - I usually breed her to Traks or other warmblood breeds - as jumpers are hugely popular here. I intend to actually event her. I do thank you for the info. So much to the pedigree stuff but it is so interesting. The first foal 'Freja' her sire was a Trakhaner named Kandidat - the foal didn't survive unfournately
, the secod one 'Friday' or Olympus his reg. name was bred to a Dutchwarmblood stud named Oxford who is pretty popular here in Canada. Anyway thanks again and next time I'll read better 