Any critique on these thrown together matings, lol.

[sb]

Well, it is truly the 11th hour . I had an extremely difficult time all this spring and couldn't decidie what to do due to lack of immediate funds, but at the same time, I refused to throw my girls to the wind, lol. So now I am down to an unraced stallion by EXPLOIT rather than leaving them open or selling them for way under their true value. I have looked at hundreds of mares offered for sale, and the majority of them in the price range I believe these mares should sell, both stick out like a sore thumb. Of course, if buyers don't look past the first generation or are only in love with the present hot but unproven stallions, or think because one stallion decides everything, then I'm not surprised at what's going on in the breeding sector these days.

Take a look at some of the stats below and don't be afraid to offer constructive criticism.
The last mare which is home bred/raised is just thrown on here for comparison. I don't think I will breed her back this year as she had four lovely babies in a row, even though they are sportshorse babies. This year's baby is a whopper, and I can't help but thinking that Secretariat had something to say in this mating.

SB

Thanks in advance.

Dr. Ruggles stands his first season at the Mississippi State University, so atleast it's a good place to get your mares in foal, lol. He was injured in training and Dr. Ruggles in Ky performed the knee operation on him, then he was donated to MSU, and they named the colt after the surgeon.
He's supposed to be correct and stand about 16 hands and is black.
Unfortunately, he will not be promoted if he continues to stand there, and the clinic, being an institution, is not very cooperative with giving me a better break. I would think that such a stallion shouldn't stand for more than $500 at the most, but they are asking $750 + all other expenses when you bring the mare[s] there. Not so good for my program, lol, but what the heck. I'm sure Captive Pro's 05 whapper baby will pay for some of it when she will be sold.

DR RUGGLES/CAPTIVE PRO DP = 6-2-8-0-0 (16) DI = 3.00


cross pedigree linebreeding

SECRETARIAT 5s x 4d TERLINGUA//CAPTIVATING GAL [dam of:

CAPTIVE MISS b F 1989 ACAROID 20-8-2-2 $386,776]

BETTER SELF 5s x 6d MONO //ASPIDISTRA * *Reine-de-course]


dam only
PRINCEQUILLO 6d x 6d
WAR RELIC 6D x 6d
INTENTIONALLY 4D x 5d
ROUGHN TUMBLE 5d x 5D 2

female family; A4

CAPTIVE PRO 25 Starts, 2 Wins, 0 Places, 1 Shows Career Earnings: $13,519.
Retired sound and is a gorgeous mare standing short of 16 hands.
CAPTIVE GREAT 1987 M GREAT ABOVE =sire of HOLY BULL
CAPTIVATING GAL 1980 M SECRETARIAT
dam of CAPTIVE MISS b F 1989ACAROID 20-8-2-2 $386,776
PRINCESS RIBOT 1964 M RIBOT
dam of CASCAPEDIA (USA) b F 1973 CHIEFTAIN RIBOT 19-10-4-2 $324,921
PRINCESS MATOAKA 1956 M PRINCEQUILLO
JUDY-RAE * 1944 F BEAU PERE


linebreeding 9 generation 10 crosses and up only

TEDDY 15 Wow!
PLUCKY LIEGE 11 Classic
SPEARMINT 10
BLACK TONEY 10 .........Domino / Speed !!
PHAROS 10 American Classic
FAIR PLAY 10 4


DR RUGGLES/SIDEWALK TALK


MR PROSPECTOR 4s x 4D MINE ONLY// CRAFTY PROSPECTOR 1/1

HAIL TO REASON 4S x 5D HALO//ROBERTO 2/0

BETTER SELF 5s x 5d MONO//GARDEN FRESH 0/2

Mono had 13 foals all of which started and all but one were winner. Incredible durable runners. One raced f which 139 times!! 44.77 average start for all 13 runners.

NATIVE DANCER 6S x 6D x 6D RAISE A NATIVE/RAISE A NATIVE/ NATIVE CHARGER

NASHUA 6s x 6d x 6d GOLD DIGGER//GOLD DIGGER /BRAMALEA * [rReine-de-Course]


female family 8-d

SIDEWALK TALK 1997 M PROSPECTORS GAMBLE
BANISSA 1989 M LEAR FAN Bella Banissa [2-year old] = stakes placed
MANDERA 1970 M VAGUELY NOBLE dam of 4 major SWs
FOOLISH ONE * 1957 F TOM FOOL Reine-de-Course
MISS DISCO * 1944 M DISCOVERY speaks for itself


9 generation linebreeding 10 crosses and up only

MAN O WAR 13
TEDDY 13
PHAROS 12
BLACK TONEY 11 I like this combination with Man O'War. Spells speed over distance.
PLUCKY LIEGE 10


DR RUGGLES/HOPE TO GLORY

This mating features two Triple Crown Winners: Secretariat and Count Fleet, the two stallions who won the Belmont by huge margins. Dr. Ruggles also brings in Storm Cat by way of Exploit who is now in South Korea and was a very promising stallion which stood at Cloverleaf, Fl and also the great HALO.


SECRETARIAT 5s x 3D TERLINGUA //HARRY K.

Tail female.... not much to crow about,here, I admit (
AMERICAN FAMILY SEVENTEEN [A17]

HOPE TO GLORY 1996 M HARRY K
GLORIOUS HOPE 1983 M KNIGHT COUNTER ..Count of Honor. Count Fleet
BELLE ECHO 1971 M BARBIZON
SPACE ACT 1961 F JET MASTER
ACTNICE 1946 F AMPHITHEATRE


TEDDY 14
SPEARMINT 11
PHAROS 10
SWYNFORD 10
AJAX 10
PLUCKY LIEGE 10

[sb]

I fortot to mention - for whatever it is worth- that my two homebred TB mares, Hope to Glory and full sister Harriette K, my monster mare, have
16 crosses to St. Simon, but that apparently gets lost somehow when mating to a stallion of different lines. Haven't quite figured that out yet,lol. Perhaps some can clue me in? Thanks.

SB

[henthorn]

If you notice the St Simon crosses in your girls, fifteen of the sixteen are at the ninth generation. Since the linebreeding only counts those at ninth or closer, all of these drop out when her foal hypo is checked; the dam's St. Simon becomes the foal's tenth generation ancestor.

I sent you a private message about your first mare. I haven't studied the other two.

[Rick]

If you were near Oklahoma
For your mare Hope to Glory, I would consider Harriman as he also carries a large amount of St Simon. Also he has a large amount of Plucky Liege. It also gives you in breeding to Somethingroyal thru Sir Gaylord and Secretariat.

[austique]

We had one of Harriman's better runners in Carter's Boy. He was an excellent hard trying colt who unfortunately had some issues due to a injury as a yearling. I would highy reccomend him to regional breeders. He is a value! Might be worth the shipping.