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Question about First Class Code

Postby lebrown » Fri Oct 22, 2004 5:40 pm

Hi,

I am new to this forum and I have really enjoyed reading all of the informative posts!

I currently own two TB mares. The mares were purchased to be re-trained as pleasure horses but I have a question or two about one of the mares. Her name is First Class Code. Her dam was Two Row and her sire was Lost Code. First Class Code raced 40 times (in several states) and won over 60k.

I just want to get any opinions about the pedigree of this mare. Any information would be greatly appericated!! Thanks so much in advance. :lol:

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Postby Mahubah » Fri Oct 22, 2004 6:52 pm

Lost Code was one of the better members of the 1984 foal crop. A real speed merchant, he could carry his speed up to nine furlongs and was a G1 winner at both three and four. He was about the best son of the 1980 Preakness winner Codex but unfortunately wasn't able to carry on the sire line. Seems like I recall him being described as having a rather badly turned-out right forefoot, but someone else may know more about his conformation.

Your mare is one of 11 foals produced by Two Row, who won a minor stakes at Beulah Park as a juvenile. None of Two Row's produce won black type or seem to have reached beyond mid-level claiming ability to judge by their SSIs. Two Row is by Our Native (a dual G1 winner as a three-year-old in 1973 but quite a bit below Secretariat and Sham in ability; useful but unspectacular sire) and is a half sister to Sham's Queen, another very minor stakes winner.

Magic Story, your mare's granddam, placed in a minor stakes at age 4 and was actually quite a decent runner with an SSI of 6.55 -- that's higher than a lot of stakes winners. She won 13 of 48 starts and placed in another 17, so she was a pretty tough girl -- easily the best runner produced by her dam. She is by Top Conference, an unraced son of the fine racehorse Traffic Judge, out of stakes-placed Amaloma, by the *Nasrullah horse Amanullah (a racehorse of roughly allowance class).

Hope some of this helps.
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Question about First Class Code

Postby lebrown » Fri Oct 22, 2004 7:21 pm

Mahubah-- thank you so much for the insight into Code's pedigree. Your information was very helpful.


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Postby Pete » Sun Oct 24, 2004 4:01 am

Hi Lebrown,

Adding to Mahubah's excellent post.

Lost Code and Our Native have both been good broodmare sires (Lost Code from a smaller number of breeding daughters).

Your mare sold for $18,000 in a year when Lost Code averaged $17,000 (she was 6th of the 13 sold). Fillies usually sell for less than colts, (size and gender bias), so I would presume your mare is reasonably well made (conformation).

From the standpoint of a pedigree page, (re-stating what Mahubah said)your mare's dam is a stakes winner and her next two dams are stakes-placed. Anna Stacia, 1/2 sister to your mare's dam, Two Row, produced a couple of black-type winners.

You didn't specifically ask if First Class Code has value as a broodmare so I'm answering an unasked question. She has some value, mostly if you want to race her foal. There is enough black-type present to augment the price of a well made foal based on the market appeal of the stallion.

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Question about First Class Code

Postby lebrown » Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:42 am

Pete-- thank you so very much for the additional information. I knew that Code sold for more than the average Lost Code foal that year and I was wondering why. Code does have good conformation!! I have contemplated breeding Code; any suggestions on a stud would be most helpful. Thank you again.

Henthorn-- thank you fo the welcome. I can promise that I will ask many questions. Also, dysfunctional families are just more fun. :); while the possibility of being shot just adds an appealing air of danger. Just kidding, of course!!!

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Postby Pete » Sun Oct 24, 2004 8:34 am

Hi Lebrown,

I'd need to know;
1 - Your intentions for the foal - to race or sell.
2 - Your approximate budget for a stallion.
3 - Where you are (state) and where you'd foal the baby.
4 - Are you involved in a state breeder's program or do you want to be.
5 - If you're going to race the horse, what track is the most likely that you'd use.

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Question about First Class Code

Postby lebrown » Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:52 pm

Pete, here are my answers to your questions.

1 - Your intentions for the foal - to race or sell.
ANSWER-- I would probably sell this foal (primarily due to my locatation).

2 - Your approximate budget for a stallion.
ANSWER-- I have an approximate budget of between $5,000-$10,000 for the stallion.

3 - Where you are (state) and where you'd foal the baby.
ANSWER-- I am in Tennessee and I know that Tennessee is NOT the best place to foal the baby for commercial appeal. Code was foaled in Kentucky and hopefully, I could board her in Kentucky until the foal was born. I am about 3 1/2 from Lexington, Kentucky.

4 - Are you involved in a state breeder's program or do you want to be.
ANSWER-- No beacuse as far as I know Tennessee does not offer a program. I have not really looked into what Kentucky offers (or even the requirements for qualifying for the Kentucky state breeder's program).

5 - If you're going to race the horse, what track is the most likely that
you'd use.
ANSWER-- Not sure.

My answers are tentative at the moment as I am looking at all options for this mare. Thank you so much!

Laura

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Postby Pete » Sun Oct 24, 2004 4:25 pm

Hi Laura,

Good answers and gives me something to work with.

I of course forgot an all important question:

I need a detailed and accurate description of First Class Code's conformation.

Another question: Do you board your own horses and will you board the mare at your own farm?

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Question about First Class Code

Postby lebrown » Sun Oct 24, 2004 7:24 pm

Pete,

Thanks so much!! As far as her conformation is concerned, I want to go out and look at her closely again before I start writing. I will try to take a conformation shot sometime this week and send it to you.

Right now, Code is boarded. However, by next summer we will have own farm and she will be boarded at our farm.


Thanks again.

Laura