DON INCAUTO (ARG) TO DEBUT ON NEW YEARS DAY

louis finochio · Postby **louis finochio** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:40 am

The backstretch workers are all family and if anyone needs help or assistance we will all help one another.

When a loose TB is running through the barn area everyone tries to catch the TB to give them back to their original owner. Thats what I mean when I say were all family.

Swaps1955 · Postby **Swaps1955** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:35 am

One of the greatest and loudest criticisms of horse racing is the lack of information that is given to the betting public. The public has no confidence in racing. In most other sports you can read of injuries and problems incurred by the athletes on the front page of the sport section. In racing, you get little-- if anything. No wonder the sport is under such indictment for devious handling of money and horses at levels from the top down. If the government is going to take advantage of the public by regulating parimutual betting and receiving huge taxes from that betting, then the betting public should be able to operate on a (hopefully) somewhat level playing field. Keeping these secrets does not create public confidence. If the horse is hurt, then why not allow the public to know????? Is the secrecy so that those involved with the horse can make a killing by betting on the horse? Granted, those people OWN the horse, but they would not be in the industry AT ALL if there were no purses being added to their check books by way of the paymaster of purses! And those purses are a direct result of the betting public. Besides, how many people do you think read this forum and then run out and bet on Don Incauto? This was not bandied about on TVG or HRTV for the betting public.

Tucumcari · Postby **Tucumcari** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:04 pm

Frankly, I could care less who bets on the horse or any horse for that matter. But as to someone outside of an operation disclosing anything that pertains to any horse is absoloutely tabu. That is one of the first things ne learns when we start out at the track what happens in the barn stays in the barn. It's not so much to with hold info from the betting public, but we are competetors... paranoid competetors. With the claiming game and the hustling of owners such as it is, what happens in the barn is no one's business.
That said Vienna is careful and thorough, and perhaps the xrays mean little other than a precautionary photo shoot. Or maybe the horse is hurt and won't get to run on the weekend. One thing is certain, Mr. Vienna isn't going to run a horse that isn't "right." He's not that kind of trainer. The horse is likely too nice to run unless he is "right." So as for concern for full disclosure to the betting public, it is a moot point. If there is something to complain about it's the clocking of horses. I've worked horses at distances that they weren't given times for the right distances or marked as a gate work when the horse worked at 5 am when the gate isn't even up yet. I went to work a mare once and a horse broke down before we broke off, we didn't work, and they gave her a half in 47. now THAT is something to complain about where "disclosure" is concerned.

wilf · Postby **wilf** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:38 pm

I hope that this horse is ok it would be nice to watch another good one run as there arent many right now. This brings me to a couple of points concerning this thread. Firstly the talk about the durable south american horses is not entirely valid as they do not import many slow ones up this way to see how brittle they might be. Secondly time and again we see wonderful horses come over here to demonstrate their talent and the North American training and racing practices finish them off . In the past few years we have seen Horse Chestnut, Wilko and that lovely Japanese filly that won the oaks out west come over and go sore. I am a great fan of the South American horses and obviously their mares have crossed well with the U.S. Studs. The same thing happens in Australia and New Zealand but I also feel that those countries training practices help their stock to bloom. Hopefully we will yet see this latest southern star shine but Louis please let the trainer keep us informed.

louis finochio · Postby **louis finochio** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:48 pm

Trainer Darrell Vienna told me this morning that DI is ok and he is planing to run on New Years day if the turf is firm. Darrell doesnt want to run if the turf is very soft, as a rain storm is coming in on this weekend.

louis finochio · Postby **louis finochio** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:54 pm

In all my years of working on the backstretch their was only two trainers that didnt want me in their shedrow during working hours. Frank Pancho Martin, and Wayne Lukas.

After 11:00 AM I was allowed to go into their shedrow and conduct my business.

louis finochio · Postby **louis finochio** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:08 pm

I told Darrell Vienna that I was posting the info he was giving me about DI, and Darrell liked the positive news for the fans to read.

When Darrell Vienna was training the maiden Save by Silver Charm, I told him the positive news of Save's progress on the thread received over 1100 views, Darrell's reply was, I bet those fans all want inside info about Save to win a bet.

Darrell Vienna's mother and my mother attended the same grade school. Darrell is a real class trainer. May Darrell have success with many more (ARG) imports.

wilf · Postby **wilf** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:49 pm

Heres a good one Louis!! Name the only horse that ever wore Phar Laps original blanket after the great horses death. Heres a clue ; it was also trained by Tommy Woodcock but it raced 33 times before breaking his maiden.Subsequently the horse won the Sydney and Adelaide Cups almost 50 years after the big horse ran. Think about it Louis.!!

louis finochio · Postby **louis finochio** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:30 pm

I dont remember his name wilf, but I have many friends from down under on the backstretch. I will ask around on Saturday and get back to your post.

When I find out his name I'll bet his family is one of plodders that get better with age. We wont find any 3X3 Mr. P. here, LOL.

BenB · Postby **BenB** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:53 am

How did the horse do on new years day, all the writing about the horse, so how did it end???
Maybe it is better, mentioning that someone has seen a good one in his or hers eyes and just keep it up once and a while. As for what I,ve seen last year with my racefilly, things can change for good or bad, within a short space of time. From very high hopes, to almost the little stud in the sky just within some 60 seconds or far less

louis finochio · Postby **louis finochio** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:55 am

Don Incauto ran 5th Ben, as the winner was Juddmonte Farms Badge of Silver. BOS was the only speed in the race and went wire to wire.

BenB · Postby **BenB** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:55 am

Louis
I do not know If the result is the same as the expectations.

With regards

Ben

louis finochio · Postby **louis finochio** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:03 pm

To Ben: The entire field except Badge of Silver were stretch runners.

Pat Valenzuela the rider of BOS is a master of pace and Pat stole the race on the front end with turtle fractions of 23:57/ 49:45/ 1:14.11/ 1:38.03/ and final time of 1:50.02

Pat Val said after the race trainer Bobby Frankel had BOS ready for his best effort and was very happy with the victory. Congrats to Frankel for and outstanding training acomplishment.