More Storm Cat Sons

[madelyn]

Two stallion prospects in the upcoming sale (January, Keeneland, Horses of All Ages)... Murashah by Storm Cat out of the phenomenal mare Shadayid. Dang, if only he could RUN!!

There is another, Cloud Cover, not nearly so well bred or anything, ran a bit but not great...

What should these bring?

[Intrinsic Worth]

I worked with Cloud Cover's dam, Wortheroatsingold, and 4 of his half siblings. He's definitely worth a shot in a regional market, even as a sporthorse sire. The dam's side is very nice. If anyone wants info about his dam's side (things you won't get from a catalogue) PM me.

[Spain]

I've liked him, but not sure if he's done much as a sire. Here is his page http://www.doublediamondfarm.com/cloud_cover.html He appears to be a handsome looking son of Storm Cat. Hope he gets a good home.

[summerhorse]

He's sure a beauty. i don't know where he ran but I'm guessing it wasn't the upper echelon! But he still had a good record placings wise and from limited foals he's not doing too badly. Could be worth taking a chance on.

[adrienne]

I always worry when they won't show a picture of the stallion standing... I then begin to wonder what a big quaking freak he might be when set up

~Adrienne

[Intrinsic Worth]

He's a very nicely made stallion. I haven't seen one of Wortheroatsingold's foals that wasn't nicely made, no matter who she was bred to.

[HR LLC]

How about Documentary, hip 1289? A son of storm cat and his 1st dame is Honest Lady and 2nd dam is Toussard. To bad he cant run a lick either.

[sb]

quote="madelyn"]

There is another, Cloud Cover, not nearly so well bred or anything, ran a bit but not great...



Don't agree with you on the above. Cloud Cover's 3rd dam is one of the greatest, Missy Baba. Herself a Reine-de-Course of first grade, backed up by her dam UVIRA (GB)*, also designated R-de-C. Broodmare sire Naskra [love this line] has a (74.69] as a sire. NIce Conduit mare profile as well
Profile = 9-4-1-9-5 Speed = 13 Stamina = 14 Index = 1.15 Triads = 14-14-15

What should these bring ?

I don't know if either one has any troublesome conformation faults, but just considering the pedigree, i think Cloud Cover should bring A LOT more than the other guy. Not all reasons why any given stallion is successful at stud or not are always crystal clear and new ownerships and locations can do wonders sometimes.

[sb]

quote="madelyn"]

There is another, Cloud Cover, not nearly so well bred or anything, ran a bit but not great...



Don't agree with you on the above. Cloud Cover's 3rd dam is one of the greatest, Missy Baba. Herself a Reine-de-Course of first grade, backed up by her dam UVIRA (GB)*, also designated R-de-C. Broodmare sire Naskra [love this line] has a (74.69] as a sire. NIce Conduit mare profile as well
Profile = 9-4-1-9-5 Speed = 13 Stamina = 14 Index = 1.15 Triads = 14-14-15

What should these bring ?

I don't know if either one has any troublesome conformation faults, but just considering the pedigree, i think Cloud Cover should bring A LOT more than the other guy. Not all reasons why any given stallion is successful at stud or not are always crystal clear and new ownerships and locations can do wonders sometimes.]

[JCBloodstock]

What should these bring?

Cloud Cover is'nt to hard to predict,yes he's sired some foals but very few for standing in Florida.There's something about them they don't like or else he'd have more numbersI'd definitely check with Double Diamond first as to if he's even going to be in the sale.They did sell Wild Escapade at The Fall Ocala Sale for $47,000 which surprised me somewhat.If he's in I expect him to sell anywhere from $20,000 to $40,000.There will be stallion buyers there like Mohn's Hill or Rick Nord that for 20 to 35k will have a home for him somewhere in South America..I think Cloud Cover does have a very good pedigree.As to the other one-that one is hard to pick as Ozzie Cat could have been bought privately in November for half of the $210,000 he sold for.He did have somewhat of a race record tho' but from what I've seen in the past few years on these Storm Cat sons going thru Keeneland the past few years they've sold anywhere from $10,000 up to 1 that was a listed Stakes Winner for $50,000 2 or 3 years back I believe.I also noticed the dam of Rocking Trick is in the books in foal to Distorted Humor.

[George William Smith]

I researched Wortheroatsingold for Pin Oak Stud and Storm Cat was one of my recommended sires. Cloud Cover was bred to Pin Oak and from there I lost track of when they sold him, but when he appeared at the races I followed his career and he started out well and I had high hopes for him but he did not train on as well as I expected and I lost track of him. Noticed him via the DRF as the sire of some horses and though useful were not outstanding. Sons of Storm Cats often do fairly well at stud even with less that stellar race records so I have been disappointed with him

If he was drop dead gorgeous, Pin Oak usually keep em, so the fact that he ended up in Donald Disney's hands might have indicated they couldn't afford to not let him go or he wasn't all the great looking for Pin Oaks standard but okay for Disney.

[Happy]

I've set back and watched this thread and can't stand it any longer. I must tell you I love Cloud Cover. I don't know why he is not getting better racer's then he has, maybe not promoted enough as some of the other stallions. To set the record straight, He has beautiful, correct, well tempered foals. I know, I have had 2 filly foals by him. One just turned 5 on Jan 1. She had a beautiful start in life and as a 6 month old won the blue ribbon in the filly division and reserved champion with all the foals in the thoroughbred breeding divison on comformation, quality, etc. from a horse show that has been in place for over 110 years. When she was sent to a farm to be broke, she was only there less than 4 weeks when she got her foot caught underneath the cross buck door and had to have surgery to remove all the wood and sew up the wound which was bad. She survived this but any chances of racing and even being a show horse came to an end. We were very upset to say the least. We had high hopes for this filly. We turned her into a broodmare and she had a colt in 05 and what a mover he is. The second filly just turned 3 years old on Jan 1, and was foaled by another mare. We put her in a yearling sale and was sent to a farm to be preped and they all fall in love with her and they sent her on to the sell, but low and behold, if she didn't get hurt the first night at the sales grounds. She didn't even get a chance to be shown. So for the next 9 months this poor filly had to be in the stall. On the 9th month she was turned out in the round pen on the 10th month she was moved to a paddock and on the 12th month we sent her to be broke and trained for racing. She's been there less than a month but is doing everything she is supposed to be doing and again these people have taken a liking to her also. So she is getting more attention then a lot of the horses there. I just hope she does well and puts both Cloud Cover and my mare on the map. Both of these fillys where from different size mares and both of them where their first foals. Both of these foals ended
up in the stall for month upon month and yet they still have the best disposition. One is a large filly the other a smaller one, but built like a tank with very nice hip and shoulder and of course very correct.
So:
Cloud Cover has beautiful, correct, well manner and even tempered foals and I love them!

[Intrinsic Worth]

Cloud Cover did nothing of real merit on the track for Pin Oak to keep him. Equality won the Tampa Bay Derby and they didn't keep him either. They kept Changeintheweather because he was a good 2 year old runner and I believe they thought he had a lot more potential, but never retained his form after mysterious physical ailments plagued him at 3 (he was at the farm for most of the year.) Anyone who actually worked with Changeintheweather, his half siblings, and his dam, would have said that he was going to be a horrible stallion prospect. So far, he has. They were looking for a place for him last April.


They have to be a lot more than just drop dead gorgeous for Pin Oak to keep them.

[George William Smith]

I stand corrected. You know Pin Oak much better than I and it has been about 6 or 7 years since I worked for them so my memory is bound to have a few holes in it.

Thanks for the correction, George