There is much yet to be learned and who better to learn it from than those hands on professionals who make all this work. These questions won't be easy nor should they be, but I guarantee you, they'll be fun.
The first one always seems to be the toughest ...
1) Is it all worth it?
2) Let's say you have a live two-year-old although not regally bred, shows all the promise in the world: precocity, professionalism, good works, good gate works, gallops strong and show "presence." What level do you start him/her and why? Do you want him/her to win first out? Tell us about those Derby dreams when you get a horse like this one.
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You can only get out of a TB whats bred into them, as like begets like.
If your TB has a pedigree of speed and early maturing family to will look for sprint races for its debut.
If your TB has a pedigree of stamina and late maturing families you will look for a distance and possibly grass.
If your TB has a pedigree of speed and early maturing family to will look for sprint races for its debut.
If your TB has a pedigree of stamina and late maturing families you will look for a distance and possibly grass.
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Thanks for the replys here gentlemen. Could not have gotten better answers ... like begets like and never stop dreamin!
One more question for today that has to do w/Private Vow, his long works between works and how he gallops out after the 6fl work. This information seems priceless. Is this information available and how close to the vest do the insiders keep this info?
One more question for today that has to do w/Private Vow, his long works between works and how he gallops out after the 6fl work. This information seems priceless. Is this information available and how close to the vest do the insiders keep this info?
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piggy-back question if the author doesn't mind.
What are the rules for a horse running on the track?
dumb question I know, but for example do the shoes have to be a certain weight? Do the shoes have to be metal? I know a horse can wear blinders, but can they were any protective gear, for legs etc.
Are there any archaic rules that don't apply longer?
Thanks
What are the rules for a horse running on the track?
dumb question I know, but for example do the shoes have to be a certain weight? Do the shoes have to be metal? I know a horse can wear blinders, but can they were any protective gear, for legs etc.
Are there any archaic rules that don't apply longer?
Thanks
Horses can wear wraps while running (i.e. vet wrap) and don't need approval to do so.
Shoe rules generally only come in on the turf where only certain types of shoes are permitted in order to protect the turf course. Turn downs are not permitted. Some tracks have rules about caulks. The weight of racing plates is negligible.
Blinkers generally require approval from the starter. Horses can wear mesh or plastic goggles if they have a eye sensitivity or impaired vision. They can also wear ear hoods if they have an ear sensitivity or sensitivity to sound (worn most famously by Gate Dancer).
Nasal strips are also permitted.
I think that covers most of the equipment allowed.
Shoe rules generally only come in on the turf where only certain types of shoes are permitted in order to protect the turf course. Turn downs are not permitted. Some tracks have rules about caulks. The weight of racing plates is negligible.
Blinkers generally require approval from the starter. Horses can wear mesh or plastic goggles if they have a eye sensitivity or impaired vision. They can also wear ear hoods if they have an ear sensitivity or sensitivity to sound (worn most famously by Gate Dancer).
Nasal strips are also permitted.
I think that covers most of the equipment allowed.
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ragsdaj,
By all means if you've got a question post it. I started this thread hoping others would join and in so doing we all might learn a new thing or two. Thanks to the trainers for taking a few minutes away from their busy schedules to answer our questions. We appreciate it.
Question:
What about supplements. I read an article in the Thoroughbred Times where a trainer gave his horse steroids and they improved performance. Are horses allowed steroids and do they improve performance?
Dumb question here, but what do horses eat and do they eat anything special before a big race?
By all means if you've got a question post it. I started this thread hoping others would join and in so doing we all might learn a new thing or two. Thanks to the trainers for taking a few minutes away from their busy schedules to answer our questions. We appreciate it.
Question:
What about supplements. I read an article in the Thoroughbred Times where a trainer gave his horse steroids and they improved performance. Are horses allowed steroids and do they improve performance?
Dumb question here, but what do horses eat and do they eat anything special before a big race?
Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. - William O. Douglas
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It is the characteristic of the most stringent censorships, that they give credibility to the opinions they attack. - Voltaire
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It is the characteristic of the most stringent censorships, that they give credibility to the opinions they attack. - Voltaire
You steroids like Equipoise and Winstrol will test and trainers that use them generally cycle on and off of them. I haven't seen them make a huge improvement and they generally turn horses into idiots. Body Builder and other "natural" steroid supplements do not test, but mostly all they do is add bulk.
Our feed program was basically 14% sweet feed, oats, Calf Manna, red wine, mineral salt and then some horses were supplemented for various issues they had such as ulcers, and of course all the hay they cared to eat.
As for feeding up to a race, every trainer has their own pet methods. We added honey to the horses' feed the week building up to the race and any horse that had sweating issues got a beer on their dinner.
I'll add a new question. We always pulled water after a horse was given Lasix on raceday, but a professor at school said that was unnecessary. Anyone not pull water after Lasix. Also what are folks feelings about hay on raceday? We always pulled hay after the horse had been handwalked the morning of the race.
Our feed program was basically 14% sweet feed, oats, Calf Manna, red wine, mineral salt and then some horses were supplemented for various issues they had such as ulcers, and of course all the hay they cared to eat.
As for feeding up to a race, every trainer has their own pet methods. We added honey to the horses' feed the week building up to the race and any horse that had sweating issues got a beer on their dinner.
I'll add a new question. We always pulled water after a horse was given Lasix on raceday, but a professor at school said that was unnecessary. Anyone not pull water after Lasix. Also what are folks feelings about hay on raceday? We always pulled hay after the horse had been handwalked the morning of the race.
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Hi Jon,
Archaic rules? I think half the rules are thought to be so by someone if not many.
The type of shoes that can be used is usually determined by the track and surface (grass or dirt) but there may be restrictions. At Fort Erie, no toe grabs on the grass. My trainer entered horses in races with shippers expecting them to be scratched and dang if he wasn't usually right. Subtle and clever and it made me money. Weight isn't a factor but the construction can be.
There are rules govering just about everything in racing and it's owner beware. If you run your maiden in a claiming race below a certain level, they may lose their eligibility for some races (like turf Sp Wt).
There are always rules regarding claiming but those rules may differ between tracks - how long before you can take them off the track (in jail is the term commonly used), etc.
Regards,
Pete
Archaic rules? I think half the rules are thought to be so by someone if not many.
The type of shoes that can be used is usually determined by the track and surface (grass or dirt) but there may be restrictions. At Fort Erie, no toe grabs on the grass. My trainer entered horses in races with shippers expecting them to be scratched and dang if he wasn't usually right. Subtle and clever and it made me money. Weight isn't a factor but the construction can be.
There are rules govering just about everything in racing and it's owner beware. If you run your maiden in a claiming race below a certain level, they may lose their eligibility for some races (like turf Sp Wt).
There are always rules regarding claiming but those rules may differ between tracks - how long before you can take them off the track (in jail is the term commonly used), etc.
Regards,
Pete
Has a palomino jean that pop up some.
This stallion is DNA ... all foal can be MBNA inrolled.
Horses like their credit cards. - Four Forty Farms
This stallion is DNA ... all foal can be MBNA inrolled.
Horses like their credit cards. - Four Forty Farms
Hi Jon,
Archaic rules? I think half the rules are thought to be so by someone if not many.
The type of shoes that can be used is usually determined by the track and surface (grass or dirt) but there may be restrictions. At Fort Erie, no toe grabs on the grass. My trainer entered horses in races with shippers expecting them to be scratched and dang if he wasn't usually right. Subtle and clever and it made me money. Weight isn't a factor but the construction can be.
There are rules govering just about everything in racing and it's owner beware. If you run your maiden in a claiming race below a certain level, they may lose their eligibility for some races (like turf Sp Wt).
There are always rules regarding claiming but those rules may differ between tracks - how long before you can take them off the track (in jail is the term commonly used), etc.
Regards,
Pete
Archaic rules? I think half the rules are thought to be so by someone if not many.
The type of shoes that can be used is usually determined by the track and surface (grass or dirt) but there may be restrictions. At Fort Erie, no toe grabs on the grass. My trainer entered horses in races with shippers expecting them to be scratched and dang if he wasn't usually right. Subtle and clever and it made me money. Weight isn't a factor but the construction can be.
There are rules govering just about everything in racing and it's owner beware. If you run your maiden in a claiming race below a certain level, they may lose their eligibility for some races (like turf Sp Wt).
There are always rules regarding claiming but those rules may differ between tracks - how long before you can take them off the track (in jail is the term commonly used), etc.
Regards,
Pete
Has a palomino jean that pop up some.
This stallion is DNA ... all foal can be MBNA inrolled.
Horses like their credit cards. - Four Forty Farms
This stallion is DNA ... all foal can be MBNA inrolled.
Horses like their credit cards. - Four Forty Farms