So I heard someone completely go off on how hyperbaric chambers are really hocus pocus but With A City apparently spent some time in one for an earlier bleeding incident and I hear it referenced. Does it really do much or is it one of those things that racing people latch onto as 'hey whatever it does, it doesn't hurt at any rate'...? I'd just love to know more about the actual strength of treatment.
Sometimes they become convinced that it works when it doesn't like eating carrots improves eyesight or hey don't sit too close to the tv, it'll hurt your vision when scientists say neither of those things matters in truth but doesn't stop your parents from trying them and believing in them does it?
Hyperbaric chambers?
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Hyperbaric chambers?
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Hyperbaric Chamber
I use to work in a Hospital with a Hyperbaric Chamber, it's amazing, I've
seen people with sores so angry looking ( bed sores ) that they were ready to bleed, bad. They would wrap the leg in like a bubble wrap and oxygen would surround the leg for 24hrs, the next day, clean like new,
gone compleatly.
They have a full tank, clear plastic, that is used for full body @ 20psi
some people come for 1 or 2 hrs, some rarly over night, it just realy
promotes healing beond beleif.
They use it on horses, and to get them used to it, they introduce them
to it early and have them stand for about 15 min. , when they take them off , they want to go back in, it's a great way to get horses to go onto
trailers. The best thing is that they ( horses) when acustomed to it, wil
go in without a problem, even in pain, they know the good place, that
they felt so good comming out of.
seen people with sores so angry looking ( bed sores ) that they were ready to bleed, bad. They would wrap the leg in like a bubble wrap and oxygen would surround the leg for 24hrs, the next day, clean like new,
gone compleatly.
They have a full tank, clear plastic, that is used for full body @ 20psi
some people come for 1 or 2 hrs, some rarly over night, it just realy
promotes healing beond beleif.
They use it on horses, and to get them used to it, they introduce them
to it early and have them stand for about 15 min. , when they take them off , they want to go back in, it's a great way to get horses to go onto
trailers. The best thing is that they ( horses) when acustomed to it, wil
go in without a problem, even in pain, they know the good place, that
they felt so good comming out of.
Well count me among the uninformed but I have heard what several vets think about this treatment and the common wisdom among the ones that don't have hyperbaric chambers that they rent out at $250 a session is that the use of a hyperbaric chamber for horses is sheer quackery and wishful thinking. Now it's probably benign quackery since it will probably do no harm but your wallet will surely feel it.
That's not to detract from real benefits shown to burn patients and skin diseases from this therapy but you have snake oil salesmen out there telling people that hyperbaric chambers will repair bowed tendons!
That's not to detract from real benefits shown to burn patients and skin diseases from this therapy but you have snake oil salesmen out there telling people that hyperbaric chambers will repair bowed tendons!
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Hyperbaric T. will bring back stroke victims quicker than other methods.
Hyperbaric T. must be used in the 1st 72 hours after a stroke as the body is easier to bring back to normal.
I learned the above from my health news letters that I subscribe to.
Hyperbaric T. must be used in the 1st 72 hours after a stroke as the body is easier to bring back to normal.
I learned the above from my health news letters that I subscribe to.
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Sysonby wrote:Well count me among the uninformed but I have heard what several vets think about this treatment and the common wisdom among the ones that don't have hyperbaric chambers that they rent out at $250 a session is that the use of a hyperbaric chamber for horses is sheer quackery and wishful thinking. Now it's probably benign quackery since it will probably do no harm but your wallet will surely feel it.
That's not to detract from real benefits shown to burn patients and skin diseases from this therapy but you have snake oil salesmen out there telling people that hyperbaric chambers will repair bowed tendons!
Ahh see this is what I'd heard. I guess this means there are uses but things like bowed tendons,etc aren't one of them. What exactly does it do to horses then? Like I said earlier, I really have no idea and figure it's better to ask.
Glad to know it's got a valid medical use for humans.
"Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana"
horses
It makes a horse able to run back on 14 days, when he would normaly require 28 days for his a game or go forward after a pair up made in 28 days. It makes sore horses heal, and prohibet swelling. It gives collic horses a calming feeling, and can get them through a tough or fatel time.
It heals problems that haven't even been detected.
Richard
It heals problems that haven't even been detected.
Richard
(Disclaimer--I actually don't know why they work, this is just a guess. I'm a chemical engineer.)
The short answer (guess): hyperbaric chamber increases concentration of oxygen in the blood, speeding the body's natural repair mechanisms
The long answer (guess):
Whenever you have a liquid-gas interface (such as a cup of water, or your lung), there is a tendency for the gas to dissolve into the liquid to a certain extent Only a limited amount dissolves, and the maximum (or equilibrium) concentration of gas in the liquid depends on several factors, most importantly the temperature of the liquid and the concentration of the gas. (you can see an example of the temperature dependence when you heat water--long before it boils, bubbles form--this is the gas that was dissolved in the water coming out because hot water can dissolve less of the gas)
If the concentration of the gas is higher (ie, a higher overall pressure or just a higher percentage of that certain gas), more will dissolve into the liquid. This is how soda works. Before you open a can of soda, all the carbon dioxide is happily dissolved in there because its concentration in the gas phase is really high. When you open the bottle/can, the concentration in the gas plummets to reach atmospheric values, and all of the sudden the carbon dioxide is not so happily dissolved and it bubbles out.
When you breathe, your lungs are well designed so the amount of oxygen in the blood in your lungs is probably close to the maximum value. So even if you take more breaths of air, you can't get past that maximum concentration of oxygen.
However, in a hyperbaric chamber the overall concentration of oxygen in the air is much higher (like in a soda can, but with oxygen), so the maximum amount of oxygen that can be dissolved is higher, so you have more oxygen in your blood and feel better.
The reverse happens when you go to high altitude--the air pressure is low and the overall concentration of oxygen is much lower than at sea level, so even if you breathe a lot the concentration in your blood is still low. You feel crummy, you get tired easily, and your metabolism slows down because the chemical reactions provide the energy to sustain life require oxygen. You risk acute mountain sickness (AMS), high altitude pulmonary edema (HAPE), and high altitude cerebral edema (HACE). Very bad news.
A hyperbaric chamber is like the opposite of high altitude. It's like going back to sea level after spending quality time over 10,000 feet. Your body is having a party because of all this excess oxygen and you feel like superman. It uses the oxygen in all sorts of metabolic processes, including repairing cellular damage, which is why I suspect the hyperbaric chamber seems to 'cure' things. Actually the individual cures themselves; the hyperbaric chamber just makes it easier and faster by providing more oxygen.
The short answer (guess): hyperbaric chamber increases concentration of oxygen in the blood, speeding the body's natural repair mechanisms
The long answer (guess):
Whenever you have a liquid-gas interface (such as a cup of water, or your lung), there is a tendency for the gas to dissolve into the liquid to a certain extent Only a limited amount dissolves, and the maximum (or equilibrium) concentration of gas in the liquid depends on several factors, most importantly the temperature of the liquid and the concentration of the gas. (you can see an example of the temperature dependence when you heat water--long before it boils, bubbles form--this is the gas that was dissolved in the water coming out because hot water can dissolve less of the gas)
If the concentration of the gas is higher (ie, a higher overall pressure or just a higher percentage of that certain gas), more will dissolve into the liquid. This is how soda works. Before you open a can of soda, all the carbon dioxide is happily dissolved in there because its concentration in the gas phase is really high. When you open the bottle/can, the concentration in the gas plummets to reach atmospheric values, and all of the sudden the carbon dioxide is not so happily dissolved and it bubbles out.
When you breathe, your lungs are well designed so the amount of oxygen in the blood in your lungs is probably close to the maximum value. So even if you take more breaths of air, you can't get past that maximum concentration of oxygen.
However, in a hyperbaric chamber the overall concentration of oxygen in the air is much higher (like in a soda can, but with oxygen), so the maximum amount of oxygen that can be dissolved is higher, so you have more oxygen in your blood and feel better.
The reverse happens when you go to high altitude--the air pressure is low and the overall concentration of oxygen is much lower than at sea level, so even if you breathe a lot the concentration in your blood is still low. You feel crummy, you get tired easily, and your metabolism slows down because the chemical reactions provide the energy to sustain life require oxygen. You risk acute mountain sickness (AMS), high altitude pulmonary edema (HAPE), and high altitude cerebral edema (HACE). Very bad news.
A hyperbaric chamber is like the opposite of high altitude. It's like going back to sea level after spending quality time over 10,000 feet. Your body is having a party because of all this excess oxygen and you feel like superman. It uses the oxygen in all sorts of metabolic processes, including repairing cellular damage, which is why I suspect the hyperbaric chamber seems to 'cure' things. Actually the individual cures themselves; the hyperbaric chamber just makes it easier and faster by providing more oxygen.
oxygen
The Hypobaric Chamber preasure is @ 20psi, that surrounding bath enters the body through the skin,all over the surface area, going first to
any surface sores then deeper toother parts. Think about the thin thoroughbred leg, which depends on the frog of the foot to pump blood through it by walking, now is saturated and absorbing standing still, just
through the skin.
Richard
any surface sores then deeper toother parts. Think about the thin thoroughbred leg, which depends on the frog of the foot to pump blood through it by walking, now is saturated and absorbing standing still, just
through the skin.
Richard
A couple interesting abstracts:
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Title: Hyperbaric oxygen as an adjuvant for athletes
Author(s): Ishii Y, Deie M, Adachi N, Yasunaga Y, Sharman P, Miyanaga Y, Ochi M
Source: SPORTS MEDICINE 35 (9): 739-746 2005
Abstract: There has recently been a resurgence in interest in hyperbaric oxygen (HBO) treatment in sports therapy, especially in Japan. Oxygen naturally plays a crucial role in recovery from injury and physiological fatigue. By performing HBO treatment, more oxygen is dissolved in the plasma of the pulmonary vein via the alveolar, increasing the oxygen reaching the peripheral tissues. HBO treatment is therefore expected to improve recovery from injury and fatigue.
HBO treatment has been reported to reduce post-injury swelling in animals, and in humans; swelling was also mitigated, but to a lesser extent. Positive results have also been reported regarding tissue remodelling after injury, with injuries involving bones, muscles and ligaments showing improved recovery. Furthermore, HBO treatment has effectively increased recovery from fatigue. This was clearly seen at the Nagano Winter Olympics, where sports players experiencing fatigue were successfully treated, enabling the players to continue performing in the games.
Despite its potential, HBO treatment does have its risks. Increasing oxygen levels in tissues poses a risk to DNA through oxidative damage, which can lead to pathological changes in the CNS and the lungs. Regarding the operating of HBO systems, safer administration should be advised.
Further research into HBO treatment is required if this therapy is to become more widespread. It should become possible to tailor treatment to an individual's condition in order to use HBO treatment efficiently.
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Title: Hyperbaric oxygen in the treatment of acute muscle stretch injuries - Results in an animal model
Author(s): Best TM, Loitz-Ramage B, Corr DT, Vanderby R
Source: AMERICAN JOURNAL OF SPORTS MEDICINE 26 (3): 367-372 MAY-JUN 1998
Abstract: Hyperbaric oxygen therapy is an established therapy in several areas of clinical medicine. However, studies have produced conflicting results regarding its efficacy for sports-related soft tissue injuries. This study examines the use of hyperbaric oxygen therapy after an acute muscle stretch injury in an animal model. Two groups of rabbits (nine in each group) were subjected to a partial stretch injury to the tibialis anterior muscle-tendon unit. For all 18 animals, the injuries were induced in the left limb, and the uninjured right limb served as a sham-operated control. In group 1, the animals were exposed to hyperbaric oxygen (>95% O-2 at 2.5 atm) for 60 minutes daily for 5 days. Treatment began 24 hours after injury. Group 2 animals were not exposed to hyperbaric oxygen. Evaluation 7 days after injury demonstrated a functional deficit (percent ankle isometric torque; injured side versus uninjured side) of 14.9% +/- 5.5% (mean +/- SD) for the treated group and 47.5% +/- 5.4% for the untreated group, representing a statistical difference using the Behrens-Fisher version of the t test (P = 0.001). Morphologic studies revealed more complete healing in the treated group. This study suggests that hyperbaric oxygen therapy may play a role in accelerating recovery after acute muscle stretch injury. Further studies are needed before definitive conclusions and treatment recommendations can be made.
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Title: Effect of hyperbaric oxygen therapy on patellar tendinopathy in a rabbit model
Author(s): Hsu RWW, Hsu WH, Tai CL, Lee KF
Source: JOURNAL OF TRAUMA-INJURY INFECTION AND CRITICAL CARE 57 (5): 1060-1064 NOV 2004
Abstract: Background: Hyperbaric oxygen therapy is a method for augmenting oxygen availability to tissues. This study investigated the effect of hyperbaric oxygen therapy on the collagenase-induced tendinopathy in the rabbit patellar tendon.
Methods: In this study, 13 rabbits were treated by ultrasound-guided injection of 0.025 mL collagenase into the patellar tendon at the right knee, with the left knee serving as a control condition. The rabbits were randomly divided into two groups. After tendinopathy had been confirmed by histologic examination 3 weeks after treatment, hyperbaric oxygen therapy was initiated for group 1. The hyperbaric oxygen therapy involved 30 daily sessions of 2.5 ATA for 120 minutes starting 6 weeks after treatment. The rabbits in group 2 were put in normobaric room air. Both groups were killed 10 weeks after treatment. Histologic examinations as well as mechanical and biochemical tests were performed after the animals were killed.
Results: The ultimate tensile load in the tendon that had hyperbaric oxygen therapy was 34.8% greater than that in the control tendon 10 weeks after treatment (p < 0.05). Hydroxyproline concentrations increased 82.2% simultaneously in the tendons that had hyperbaric oxygen therapy, as compared with the concentrations in the control tendons (p < 0.05). However, no statistical difference was found between the two groups in terms of pyridinoline concentration at the 10th week (p > 0.05). The histologic examination demonstrated an increase in blastlike tenocytes in group 1, with more mature phenotype, more organized collagen matrix, absence of myxoid degeneration, and increased vascularity at the 10th week, as compared with the control knee.
Conclusions: The results validate the effectiveness of hyperbaric oxygen therapy in the treatment of tendinopathy. Hyperbaric oxygen therapy may increase collagen synthesis and collagen cross-link formation during the early healing process.
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Title: Hyperbaric oxygen as an adjuvant for athletes
Author(s): Ishii Y, Deie M, Adachi N, Yasunaga Y, Sharman P, Miyanaga Y, Ochi M
Source: SPORTS MEDICINE 35 (9): 739-746 2005
Abstract: There has recently been a resurgence in interest in hyperbaric oxygen (HBO) treatment in sports therapy, especially in Japan. Oxygen naturally plays a crucial role in recovery from injury and physiological fatigue. By performing HBO treatment, more oxygen is dissolved in the plasma of the pulmonary vein via the alveolar, increasing the oxygen reaching the peripheral tissues. HBO treatment is therefore expected to improve recovery from injury and fatigue.
HBO treatment has been reported to reduce post-injury swelling in animals, and in humans; swelling was also mitigated, but to a lesser extent. Positive results have also been reported regarding tissue remodelling after injury, with injuries involving bones, muscles and ligaments showing improved recovery. Furthermore, HBO treatment has effectively increased recovery from fatigue. This was clearly seen at the Nagano Winter Olympics, where sports players experiencing fatigue were successfully treated, enabling the players to continue performing in the games.
Despite its potential, HBO treatment does have its risks. Increasing oxygen levels in tissues poses a risk to DNA through oxidative damage, which can lead to pathological changes in the CNS and the lungs. Regarding the operating of HBO systems, safer administration should be advised.
Further research into HBO treatment is required if this therapy is to become more widespread. It should become possible to tailor treatment to an individual's condition in order to use HBO treatment efficiently.
-------------------------------------
Title: Hyperbaric oxygen in the treatment of acute muscle stretch injuries - Results in an animal model
Author(s): Best TM, Loitz-Ramage B, Corr DT, Vanderby R
Source: AMERICAN JOURNAL OF SPORTS MEDICINE 26 (3): 367-372 MAY-JUN 1998
Abstract: Hyperbaric oxygen therapy is an established therapy in several areas of clinical medicine. However, studies have produced conflicting results regarding its efficacy for sports-related soft tissue injuries. This study examines the use of hyperbaric oxygen therapy after an acute muscle stretch injury in an animal model. Two groups of rabbits (nine in each group) were subjected to a partial stretch injury to the tibialis anterior muscle-tendon unit. For all 18 animals, the injuries were induced in the left limb, and the uninjured right limb served as a sham-operated control. In group 1, the animals were exposed to hyperbaric oxygen (>95% O-2 at 2.5 atm) for 60 minutes daily for 5 days. Treatment began 24 hours after injury. Group 2 animals were not exposed to hyperbaric oxygen. Evaluation 7 days after injury demonstrated a functional deficit (percent ankle isometric torque; injured side versus uninjured side) of 14.9% +/- 5.5% (mean +/- SD) for the treated group and 47.5% +/- 5.4% for the untreated group, representing a statistical difference using the Behrens-Fisher version of the t test (P = 0.001). Morphologic studies revealed more complete healing in the treated group. This study suggests that hyperbaric oxygen therapy may play a role in accelerating recovery after acute muscle stretch injury. Further studies are needed before definitive conclusions and treatment recommendations can be made.
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Title: Effect of hyperbaric oxygen therapy on patellar tendinopathy in a rabbit model
Author(s): Hsu RWW, Hsu WH, Tai CL, Lee KF
Source: JOURNAL OF TRAUMA-INJURY INFECTION AND CRITICAL CARE 57 (5): 1060-1064 NOV 2004
Abstract: Background: Hyperbaric oxygen therapy is a method for augmenting oxygen availability to tissues. This study investigated the effect of hyperbaric oxygen therapy on the collagenase-induced tendinopathy in the rabbit patellar tendon.
Methods: In this study, 13 rabbits were treated by ultrasound-guided injection of 0.025 mL collagenase into the patellar tendon at the right knee, with the left knee serving as a control condition. The rabbits were randomly divided into two groups. After tendinopathy had been confirmed by histologic examination 3 weeks after treatment, hyperbaric oxygen therapy was initiated for group 1. The hyperbaric oxygen therapy involved 30 daily sessions of 2.5 ATA for 120 minutes starting 6 weeks after treatment. The rabbits in group 2 were put in normobaric room air. Both groups were killed 10 weeks after treatment. Histologic examinations as well as mechanical and biochemical tests were performed after the animals were killed.
Results: The ultimate tensile load in the tendon that had hyperbaric oxygen therapy was 34.8% greater than that in the control tendon 10 weeks after treatment (p < 0.05). Hydroxyproline concentrations increased 82.2% simultaneously in the tendons that had hyperbaric oxygen therapy, as compared with the concentrations in the control tendons (p < 0.05). However, no statistical difference was found between the two groups in terms of pyridinoline concentration at the 10th week (p > 0.05). The histologic examination demonstrated an increase in blastlike tenocytes in group 1, with more mature phenotype, more organized collagen matrix, absence of myxoid degeneration, and increased vascularity at the 10th week, as compared with the control knee.
Conclusions: The results validate the effectiveness of hyperbaric oxygen therapy in the treatment of tendinopathy. Hyperbaric oxygen therapy may increase collagen synthesis and collagen cross-link formation during the early healing process.