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Anyone know a Contest I can enter I need to win Money.

Postby AfleetAlex#1fan » Fri May 12, 2006 5:01 pm

Hello all I need to know a contest I can enter so I can win $205,520 atleast.The contest has to allow 14 year olds to enter.
I am trying to buy an undefeated colt located in Panama.
Please help me if you can.Any help is appreciated.
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Jordan

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Postby Crystal » Fri May 12, 2006 6:00 pm

Does anyone even want to go here..
Jordon, try logging on to the game show network GSN.COM and maybe entering one of there shows..I heard Lingo is pretty fun.

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Postby Nancy T » Fri May 12, 2006 7:09 pm

I think Jordon should find a horse chat list for young people, I know its fun to make believe you can afford a 200K horse but reality is Fourteen year olds are not going to unless they are heir to the trump fortune. This is really going too far.

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Postby Sam » Fri May 12, 2006 7:53 pm

Nancy T wrote:This is really going too far.

nods emphatically.

It went too far last year with the constant posts about his buying Afleet Alex and then pestering for a mare in foal to Alex.

It's okay to humour a child and encourage dreaming, but eventually it reaches the point of annoyance and the kid needs to be smacked back into reality.

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Postby Derby2004 » Fri May 12, 2006 8:25 pm

Jordan, you can always save your lunch money for a week and go buy about 10 lotto tickets for next weeks powerball drawing. Thats about as good of a chance as you can get. Realistically what you need to do is save a thousand dollars or two, go buy a mare that is decent bred, save up another thousand or two and go take that mare to a stallion and have her bred. By the time you can legally enter the foal in a race you will be 18. Unless you dont want the horse racing in your name. I know what it is to have dreams about owning a race horse. Its a great dream to have. Just about all of us in this chat room have a dream story about race horses. But the reality is that is a lot work, research, and a lot of money just to get a horse to the track. And if you are one of the fortunate few in this business you will make your investment back on the track. It took me 3 years just to buy the right mare, I now have 5 . As you remember on the movie Dreamer, every race horse in the world is for sale at a price. Why a 200,000 Panama horse, when you can do it here. Leave that to the folks that have too much money than they know what to do with. Dreams are a great thing to have though. Dont ever let anyone talk you out of a dream. God knows I had my share. Save up some money til you are 18, buy a mare and have her bred or go claim a hard knocking horse that is already on the track.

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Postby Sam » Fri May 12, 2006 8:45 pm

Derby2004 wrote:Realistically what you need to do is save a thousand dollars or two, go buy a mare that is decent bred, save up another thousand or two and go take that mare to a stallion and have her bred. By the time you can legally enter the foal in a race you will be 18.

I just keep thinking that if I'd managed to come up with $20k (let alone $200k) at 14 or even 18yo and spent it on something as 'frivolous' as a horse instead of using it to go to college -- my parents not only would have beat my ass, they'd have kicked me out of the house and permanently disowned me.

There's these things called "priorities" .... Jordan's appear to be really screwed up.

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Postby Derby2004 » Fri May 12, 2006 8:48 pm

Since I bring up race horse dreams, may be we can share with Jordan what it took for some of us to get going. Just describe what your dream was and everything you had to do or are doing to pursue it. I will start. I have probably the most popular dream, to win the Kentucky Derby. When I first started in this, I started with Quarter Horse racing, bought me a nice Dash For Cash daughter and had her bred. I then started to notice that Quarter Horse racing wasn't in the spotlight as compared to TB's. Knowing nothing about TB blood or breeding, I bought the first mare that came along at a decent price. She is a daughter of Bucksplasher. A decent female family though. But as I learned about TB, I realized that a mare that has produced a couple winners of 20k or a little more, wasn't going to get me there. She was already a little older and not much left in the oven. So I gave her to a kid that lives down the street and he now rides her everyday. So not a bad investment afterall. So I held off on buying any more mares for a while while I researched the blood, some successful crosses, which I still don't know enough about, and confirmation. I then studied the races and restrcitions. So after a couple years of learning, I started looking for a mare. I quickly realized to get a quality mare, you are going to pay. Now I have 4 sons all under the age of 5, the two youngest being twins. Its kind of hard to fit a high price TB mare in while budgeting to make sure the kids were taken care of. So I got a second job. I was working God awful hours and killing myself over this dream of mine, but I am the type that once I get my mind set on something, I wont let up. So I bought a mare finally. By a top broodmare sire from a great family. She had produced a couple of earners of 100k or better and she was young. Plus her babies sold well. So after the thousands of dollars of breeding costs, vet costs, boarding, feed, hay, etc. I got my mare in foal. Since I have bought a few more and gone through the above steps again and again. I have quit both jobs and got a wild hair up my a** and started my own company to spend time with the kids and the horses. Oh yeah, and the wife. Fortunately for me, all of my kids love the horses and can't wait to go with Daddy to the barn. They are not scared of these 1200 pund beasts and I teach them what I know as we go along. I might bot have won the Ky Derby yet, but my kids following in daddys footsteps made my dreams come true. And thats the important part of a dream is sharing it with the people you love. And Sam, I don't want no posts about my mushy post. :D

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Postby Derby2004 » Fri May 12, 2006 8:53 pm

Jordan is only 14. Life has not slapped him in the face yet with a mortgage or truck note. All he sees are people that are doing what they love on TV. Im sure as he gets older that he will realize that college is more important that a damned old mare. As annoying as it gets to us about his posts, the kid at least has dreams. Thats the problem with the world today are kids coming up in households with severe problems and malfunctions. They don't know what it is to have dreams and if they had them, they were ripped away from them by the grim reality that was in front of them. Successful people in any industry always start with a dream. Jordan just needs a dose of reality to hit and he will realize that dreams take a lot of work and patience.

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Postby surprisewind » Fri May 12, 2006 9:10 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, and slap me if I'm mean, but didn't a person GIVE this kid a really nice filly recently? So he could get a start with horses, learn to work with them, etc?
Perhaps he needs to do just that, then find someone in the racing industry to work, THEN worry about winning the Powerball lottery and getting another horse...
Again, slap me if I'm too harsh...if I were the person who had GIVEN the horse away I'd be a little bothered by the lack of attention being shown to it.
Shouldn't he be over-the-top excited and preoccupied by THAT? I - and I suspect most of us here did the same - had to work for my first horse. If someone had given me my OWN horse I would have stroked out and died.

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Postby surprisewind » Fri May 12, 2006 9:11 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, and slap me if I'm mean, but didn't a person GIVE this kid a really nice filly recently? So he could get a start with horses, learn to work with them, etc?
Perhaps he needs to do just that, then find someone in the racing industry to work, THEN worry about winning the Powerball lottery and getting another horse...
Again, slap me if I'm too harsh...if I were the person who had GIVEN the horse away I'd be a little bothered by the lack of attention being shown to it.
Shouldn't he be over-the-top excited and preoccupied by THAT? I - and I suspect most of us here did the same - had to work for my first horse. If someone had given me my OWN horse I would have stroked out and died.

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Postby Sam » Fri May 12, 2006 9:22 pm

Derby2004 wrote:And Sam, I don't want no posts about my mushy post. :D

I'd snark about pinning an attitude on me before I've earned it ... but I think it's too late for that. :wink:

4 kids under 5? :shock: that's not a mush post, that's my worst nightmare. At least they are all boys. Mom always told me I was 10 times more trouble than my two brothers combined 8) Knowing I had the cops dragging me home with a sheepish grin when I was 8 ... she's probably right.

I'm all for supporting a dream, but there are dreams you encourage and dreams you indulge. This is neither of them.

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The horse you are talking about is Golden Strategy

Postby Keith » Sat May 13, 2006 3:04 am

If I am guessing the horse you are talking about is Golden Stategy who is by Strategic Mission and he is listed in the Blood Horse. Does being a graded stakes winner in Panama mean you are worth $200,000? Probably not but who knows.

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Postby skeenan » Sat May 13, 2006 5:42 am

surprisewind wrote:If someone had given me my OWN horse I would have stroked out and died.


Yup... would have done the same thing as a kid! Wanted a horse so badly that I would have agreed to *anything* my parents asked in return!

Jordan, here's my advice (from someone who has loved horses for more than twice as long as you are old)...

Spend time with your mare. Get to really know and understand a horse. Learn what makes them tick—how they think, react, learn. Read everything you can about horses and never pass up the opportunity to learn from others. If your love for horses doesn't go away in time, being knowledgeable will help open doors for you later on if you try for a hands-on experience, like interning at a barn, etc. Learn how to ride and ride well. With horsemanship skills and good riding skills, you will have a good foundation for a career with horses, or at least a good chance to be successful if you decide to go into racing.

Dreams are nice to have, but sometimes you have to do a lot to help them happen... and work hard towards what you really want someday. Take advantage of the time you have now, at your age, while you are still in school and don't have bills to pay. It isn't as easy when you have to work 8 or more hours a day... trust me on that...

Good luck with your mare... I hope you give her lots of love and attention and treasure every day you have her. You're luckier than most children to have your own horse at your age! Don't waste it... :D

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Postby HR LLC » Sat May 13, 2006 7:48 am

Keith,

Golden Strategy was a hip #600 out of the Fasig Fall KY yearling sale in 2004. He sold for 3500 and I doubt he is worth 200k now after winning stakes races in Central America. If he was worth it someone would have purchased him already to race in the US.


To the rest of you who follow up with Jordan,

There is nothing wrong with having dreams. We all had dreams of what we wanted to be and do when we were 14 or 15. Nevertheless, I was more in touch with reality at 14 in the fact my dad told me I was going to the army or college when I got to be 18. He made me work at grocery stores cleaning floors/bathrooms and I had to work doing landscaping during the summertime in Miami, FL as a teenager. All this for minimum wages. The money I made did not add up to the stuff I wanted to purchase. My dad did this to me to show me how the real world works. Nobody gives you anything and you have to work hard for everything. That stark reality made me bust my butt to go to college.

Jordan is only 3 to 4 years from finishing high school. I would think a sense of money and how the world works would be a little clearer as you move closer to high school.

Most time his posts are to far from reality and he should ask his parents about getting 200k to purchase a horse from Panama. Lessons in reality should be left up to the parents not people posting on this board.

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Postby Derby2004 » Sat May 13, 2006 12:29 pm

I would rather this kid be bugging us for 5 minutes of our useless time on the internet than be doing what 14 and 15 year olds do around my city. I am in Memphis, and by the time you are 15 you have experienced a lot of tough choices. Drugs, liquor, sex, etc. If you think its annoying, just don't read the posts he puts up. The kid has excitement about the horse racing industry and he's going to be the next generation of breeder. Obviously one day he will realize that a top knotch race horse isn't going to be dropped in his lap. There is a lot of work and a lot of patience that has to be invested in this business. Nobody knows that better than me. If he loses that excitement he has now, than he will not be in the industry 10 or 20 years from now. And thats one less person involved in the greatest game on earth. Yes his posts may be a little annoying and redundant, but when he first starting posting on here, people started helping him and he got used to that. I did the same thing. Somebody on this board is always willing to lend some advice or information. So whenever he has a question, he turns to this chat room. Now we all know good and well that he will not buy a 200k race horse, at least right now. So just offer some advice to help the next generation of horsemen and let life come into focus for him. Hell I remember trying to get up enough money to buy my first quarter horse when I was 15. I annoyed the hell out of many people in my area. And probably still do. But I have learned that there is always someone willing to help if you ask. What does someone have to lose by asking a question? Now he does need to find a chat room for younger people or just talk about the racing going on now instead of trying to buy Afleet Alex or some crappy ass Panama horse that isn't worth 10k, much less 200k. Does anyone know of a chat room for younger people?