Auctions with Mares in-foal to Afleet Alex

[BJ]

Jordan

If you want to be rich then you have to finish high school, get a college degree and work at it. It isnt handed to you on a silver platter (unless your parents are very wealthy and think it would be just wonderful to leave you their millions so you really learn some responsibility).

Well, that isn't entirely true. I know a millionaire that never went beyond the 8th grade. However, he had great people analysis and situational skills. Jordan is seriously lacking in both. If he was SERIOUS about being rich and being able to buy a great mare in foal to Afleet Alex, he sure wouldn't spend his time tweaking people around here. He'd be busy getting down to business. He'd make a good Princess. He has the "do me" act down pat.

[Sam]

He has the "do me" act down pat.

Okay, you guys REALLY need to stop feeding me straight lines like that.

[geowarrior]

I have to say I can't entirely fault Jordan for having a passion. I teach first year U students and although many are wonderful, in some I detect a jaded attitude which seems sad in people so young. Could just be my class though! My point is that it is good that he is enthusiastic, but I agree with everyone that he is worryingly unrealistic, and that parental guidance is needed since he is not listening to any of the experts who post to this forum.

I just bought tiny shares in three two year olds who race at Arlington Park. I'm thrilled to finally be involved in some small way in racing, but I am realistic in the sense that although these are far from being claiming horses, I won't be attending the Run for the Roses any time soon. I also know that this is likely to the maximum extent of my involvement in racing given my current financial situation. Jordan needs to understand the realities. Even if he found a partner weird enough to buy a quarter million dollar mare and give him the foal, he would not be able to afford to train and race it, and even if another weirdo chipped in and paid for the training and racing, the foal might be injured at any time, and never race at all.

Jordan not only needs to learn about pedigrees, but also about the cost of breeding, keeping, training and racing horses. If Jordan was truly committed, he could earn money mowing lawns, get his babysitter's license when he is fourteen (assuming he matures and becomes more responsible), and keep saving with the intent of buying a share in a horse through a reputable partnership outfit. He also needs to improve his communication skills if he wants to be taken seriously by any kind of employer who might pay the kind of adult wages he would need to indulge his dreams more fully. There was a partnership group at Emerald Downs, which is close to his location, but I don't know if it still exists. In any case, owning such a share would expose him to the realities of racing in which costs and risks are high, and it's a quarter of a century since any horse, let alone one likely to be owned by Jordan, has won the Triple Crown.

It's fine to dream, but by being realistic, one can sometimes realize just a fraction of the dream, which, with the right attitude can be utterly thrilling. But of course you all know this - this is aimed at Jordan whom we already know isn't listening. So why did I write this? Because it looks like all of you have tried to reach him, so I figure I ought to try once too.

[BJ]

Yes it is im hoping my friend can help me out and we can share the foal.Who know I may be able to just keep the entire foal and let her keep the entire mare.Well mabey put the foal under my name....

Thanks!

Yours Truly,
Jordan

Jordan,

You really need parental guidance. Any "friend" who would offer to buy a 13 y/o boy a $250k horse/mare/whatever...probably lives at Michael Jackson's house. Or...Madonna's

[Heidilady]

Yes it is im hoping my friend can help me out and we can share the foal.Who know I may be able to just keep the entire foal and let her keep the entire mare.Well mabey put the foal under my name....

Thanks!

Yours Truly,
Jordan

Jordan,

You really need parental guidance. Any "friend" who would offer to buy a 13 y/o boy a $250k horse/mare/whatever...probably lives at Michael Jackson's house. Or...Madonna's

Ah he does have Neverland Ranch doesn't he...I presume the mare and foal would be lodged with the petting zoo...

Jordan probably couldn't get together with Madonna. He probably assumes she still has her American accent and would get really confused when she answered a phone call with her faux-Britspeak, then he'd hang up figuring he'd dialed a wrong number.

[Crystal]

oh my god, this is too funny. Ask MJ to buy you a afleet alex pony. It's nice to be jaded. But again I ask.. Why Afleet Alex?? Why now?? For what? Why do you want the foal?? There are better studs out there.

[Toccet02]

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He also needs to improve his communication skills if he wants to be taken seriously by any kind of employer who might pay the kind of adult wages he would need to indulge his dreams more fully.

Did it ever occur to anyone here that this Jordan might be developmentally challenged?
It seems kind of obvious, but I don't think folks here have discussed that aspect of it. Forgive me if I'm wrong. But if I'm right, attacking and joking won't have much of an effect.

[BJ]

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He also needs to improve his communication skills if he wants to be taken seriously by any kind of employer who might pay the kind of adult wages he would need to indulge his dreams more fully.

Did it ever occur to anyone here that this Jordan might be developmentally challenged?
It seems kind of obvious, but I don't think folks here have discussed that aspect of it. Forgive me if I'm wrong. But if I'm right, attacking and joking won't have much of an effect.

I don't think so. I think he's just a typical 13 y/o boy, who happens to be obsessed with racehorses (probably through a parent or other adult influence, who isn't really giving him much guidance) and a boy, who is way too immature to grasp the responsibilities and intricacies of the game. Hell...most of the adults in the game can't grasp it until they are broke and are desperately looking to unload the horse(s) on someone/anyone who will give them a few bucks for them. In fact, the more I think about it...it APPEARS the adults in his life are sleeping on the job and exercising very little maturity themselves. (Except for the lady that gave him the filly, trying to help him "learn".)

[geowarrior]

I was neither attacking nor was I joking. That's why I wrote about Jordan in the third person as many have said some downright rude things directly to him. I was trying to make realistic suggestions that he might pick up on.

I'm not an expert on developmental disabilities, nor do I have much experience with kids his age. However, he clearly can read and comprehend to some extent, and can also communicate to some extent. I suspect that although he might have a learning disability, it might not be insurmountable if he wished to work on it.

Many of the non-learning disabled students with whom I end up interacting at university do not have the communication skills that one would hope for (and that's not usually their fault), and since I have had extensive contact with potential employers of graduates over the years I can say for sure that communication skills are highly valued for well paying jobs - the point I was trying to make. If Jordan or his parents suspect a learning disability my advice would be more or less the same, except it would include a suggestion to approach his school counselor, get testing to identify the nature of the disability, and then learn strategies to deal with it.

I have a learning disability (well below normal short term memory) which appeared when I was an adult and I had to make many adjustments in the way I approached common tasks, but it is amazing how many strategies can be taught to deal with these issues, and learning disabled people who have adopted these strategies have as much chance of landing the big job as anyone.

However I am puzzled by Jordan's seemingly extreme disconnect from a realistic approach to achieving his dreams, and Toccet is right, it is possible that Jordan is more seriously developmentally challenged, which would bring us back to his parents. Where are they?

But Toccet, in comparison to the comments basically calling Jordan an asshole to his face, the statement I made was in the spirit of giving advice, and on the basis of my experiences dealing with potential employers.

[BJ]

Geowarrior,

I'm not sure WHAT you are responding to or to whom, but I can assure you, I was NOT dissing you or your comments. I was simply opining that Jordan seems like a typical kid, his age, obsessed with something (a hobby), without a lot of adult guidance. For instance, whether Jordan has the flavor-of-the day learning disabilty or social disorder, the bottom line seems to be that his parents are suspiciously absent from his tutilage. On that, I think we all agree.

Pass the "Calm-Em" TM please

[Heidilady]

Erm this has suddenly gotten a little too serious for my tastes. I'm so lighthearted about it partly because I realize Jordan will in no way take this to heart as real advice. You can be harsher than you might cuz he's not gonna go to his room and cry about it. You're not going to be listened to seriously. He's not glass half-full, he's 'can I have another glass too?....full of milk..... for free? and can you fill this one up, it's only half-full. Thanks.'

I figured things were kooky when all the posts were in bold print cuz that always drove me nuts. Has nobody else gotten annoyed? Hmm..just me.

Now to get us back to our regularly scheduled standup, a site with developmentally challenged (I'm assuming) answers to science question (these are real folks) along with one of my faves I shall quote here:

"The body consists of three parts- the brainium, the borax and the abominable cavity. The brainium contains the brain, the borax contains the heart and lungs, and the abominable cavity contains the bowls, of which there are five - a, e, i, o, and u."

http://www.funny.co.uk/stuff/art_172...t-Answers.html

[geowarrior]

No BJ, I was actually responding to Toccet. I just didn't want to be seen as dissing Jordan. No offence intended.

And in the spirit of taking the calm-em and bringing back the humor, the best answer I ever got was 'Earthquakes only happen in seduction zones, such as Oakland, Hawaii and California'.

[Heidilady]

No BJ, I was actually responding to Toccet. I just didn't want to be seen as dissing Jordan. No offence intended.

And in the spirit of taking the calm-em and bringing back the humor, the best answer I ever got was 'Earthquakes only happen in seduction zones, such as Oakland, Hawaii and California'.

[Toccet02]

I was neither attacking nor was I joking. That's why I wrote about Jordan in the third person as many have said some downright rude things directly to him. I was trying to make realistic suggestions that he might pick up on.

Oh, I totally understood that, and you were perfectly polite.
I should have made myself more clear.
I am neither upset for Jordan or deeply annoyed at him, I was just wondering why so many of the clearly upset posters never wonder aloud if there might be a problem with him.
I was on another forum with a similar person who never took advice, had spelling and grammar issues, and was unrealistic....this poster was teased incessantly...and the moderator eventually told people to lay off, and privately e-mailed that this person was "developmentally disabled" .
That's all. Did not mean to preach.
This person on the other board never changed one iota, by the way.

[Inyureye]

Ha, Ha, Ha! What some folks here seem not to realize is that most 13 yo boys appear mentally challenged even upon closer examination. Notice I said most, not all, so don't start flaming me. But MOST 13 yo boys appear retarded and socially unskilled to adults in adult company.

As for whether he's a troll - well, maybe. If so, Jokem.

Inyureye