Hyperarhythmia Horse

[mrequine]

Hi,
I am wondering if if anyone has had experience with a througbred race horse in training that eats well looks well trains well up to 3f and then starts breathing heavy and blows and then pulls up on the rider and then wan'ts to go again. He keeps doing this every time he goes out. He is a unraced 3 year old well bred and looks and runs super until he goes 3f and then pulls up. He is quiet a hand full when he goes out to the track to work kinda gets worked up has been 2 minute licking and swimming have tested his heart rate after working and he is at 150 kinda high could he be lacking proper medication or have an inbalance of electrolytes ? I need help we have tried everything possible, this could be a real nice horse if we get to the bottom of this problem. Thanks for any help.

John.

[Roguelet]

Have you tried scoping him right after he does that? If not, that would be my suggestion... might tell you something, might not, but probably wouldn't hurt.

[ragsdaj1]

http://www.heartmonitors.com/horse/arti ... lbrook.htm

Here is an equine heart rate article. Informative and does indicate that electrolyte embalance could be the problem, but you should read the entire article. Verification looks expensive.


JonR

[mrequine]

Thank you for your suggestions I had the horse scoped numerous times and he is fine. I brought the horse to New Bolton for all kind of tests they said his heart is fine they can't detect anything abnormal except they think he may have a blockage in his wind flow passage they said to take him out of training for a month and may have to try some medication to clear his wind flow. ANY SUGGESTIONS WELCOMED...
THANKS..

[madelyn]

You could check for guttural pouch infection. Also, abcess teeth up at the very back.

[freshman]

I guess it couldn't hurt to have a second opinion on his heart funtion, since the horse has had its respiratory tract scoped exhaustively with no answers.

You could ask New Bolton for cardiologists to turn to for more diagnostics at this point and they should be as helpful as anyone. Contrary to popular belief, these institutions are usually very good about providing references,etc--they are teaching hospitals and have the benefit of so many dvm's, of so many backgrounds, looking at each case and offering opinions, including that the any individual may be better served at another place. Ask them or look to Rood and Riddle, HDM, etc to evaulate this horse's heart. Any state veterinary teaching hospital, including TN, NC, etc also has boarded cardiologists that are eager to evaulated equine cases.

Good luck!

[BJ]

Hi,
I am wondering if if anyone has had experience with a througbred race horse in training that eats well looks well trains well up to 3f and then starts breathing heavy and blows and then pulls up on the rider and then wan'ts to go again. He keeps doing this every time he goes out. He is a unraced 3 year old well bred and looks and runs super until he goes 3f and then pulls up. He is quiet a hand full when he goes out to the track to work kinda gets worked up has been 2 minute licking and swimming have tested his heart rate after working and he is at 150 kinda high could he be lacking proper medication or have an inbalance of electrolytes ? I need help we have tried everything possible, this could be a real nice horse if we get to the bottom of this problem. Thanks for any help.

John.

What is the white count? Is it normal? Does it fluctuate? Run high?

I have a filly that is very high strung until she gets to go out and exercise. Then she pops her cork on the track, putting outrageous energy into her jogs, gallops and breezes, and looks like she will keel over and collapse, as soon as they cool her out.

Her white count runs high all the time. Has been as high as 22,000. Several tests, including bone marrow, and several thousand $$ later...they can find no real cause.

She did have ulcers, but I think it's adrenal related. I've been advised to try a product called "Calm Em" (now called Thia Cal by Finish Line) on her, but can't get my partner to agree.

I've also thought of DMG to help her muscles and soft tissue supply oxygen and remove toxins better. But don't know anyone that has ever used it.

[Laurierace]

I would bet the farm that this horse is displacing. Maybe just for a second and then swallowing and putting it back in place, and that feeling of not being able to breathe is freaking him out. I have way more experience with displacers than I would like, and this sounds textbook to me.

[ragsdaj1]

I would bet the farm that this horse is displacing. Maybe just for a second and then swallowing and putting it back in place, and that feeling of not being able to breathe is freaking him out. I have way more experience with displacers than I would like, and this sounds textbook to me.

Hi laurierace,

if you wouldn't mind, could you discribe displacing for me.

Thanks,

JonR

[Laurierace]

The technical term is dorsal displacement of the soft pallate (sp) or DDSP. I could give you a layman's explanation but you would probably be better off googling it. You start out with equipment ie tongue tie, figure 8 noseband, serena's song bit, spoon bit, happy mouth bit and so on. Then there are the surgical attempts to fix the problem. The main surgeries are the myectomy and the Llewelyn procedure. Most recently there is a piece of equipement called the Cornell collar. That will most likely be my next step with one of my fillies who has tried all the above with mixed results.

[Kadam]

This might sound crazy, but about 25 years ago I had my horses stabled at a standardbred training track and an old, and I mean old trainer used to strap a cold can of beer the same way the cornell collar is. Then after working the horse he would drink the beer.

[Laurierace]

My Cornell Collar arrived in the mail today. I would love to try it on the mare I have in on Thursday but I don't think she will tolerate the figure 8 part of it. Good thing it came with instructions, because I would have put it on totally wrong. It has what looks to be a brow band on it but that part actually goes behind the ears. I never would have figured that out!