Breeding Suggestions

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Keith
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Horses You may consider

Postby Keith » Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:10 pm

Menifee by Harlan-Anne Campbell by Never Bend

linebreeding Lalun 4x5 through Never Bend and Bold Reason
line breeding Storm Bird 4x4 through Storm Cat and Line Of Thunder

Leestown by Seattle Slew-Bright Candles by El Gran Senor
line breeding Plum Cake 5x5, Hail To Reason 5x5, Round Table 5x5

Gilded Time by Timeless Moment-Gilded Lilly by What a Pleasure
He is a proven stallion who offers value as well as an outcross. He is the sire of millionaires Mandy's Gold, Barely A Moment, and Elloluv. Grade II Stakes winner Elaborate is by Gilded Time and out of a Gulch mare.

Other stallions you may consider
Siphon
Medaglia D'Oro
Powerscourt
Slew City Slew
Pleasant Tap
Leroideanimaux
Orientate
Aptitude

Keith

casper10
Yearling
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Postby casper10 » Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:04 am

Keith,

Thanks for your suggestions!

I thought about Slew City Slew for Thunder Reason but I think if I go the Slew route, I like the bottom on Doneraile Court and Chief Seattle better. Slew City Slew is the most proven of the 3 and is probably one of the best values out there.

Maybe I am thinking about it wrong, but I looked at several of your other choices for my other mare Pleasant Laur. Gilded Time would bring in sex-balanced inbreeding to Damascus and Grey Flight. It apprears that many of his foals are not correct.

Powerscourt and Medaglia D'oro bring in Be Faithful who Pleasant Laur tails to. Powerscourt has a real European bottom and Medaglia D'oro is above my price range. I am leaning toward Artie Schiller for her. He has El Prado on top and some interesting crosses with Pleasant Laur on the bottom - Ribot, Nantallah, etc.

Does anybody have an opinion on Artie Schiller as a sire? His bottom tends to throw better females and El Prado is still an unknown as a sire of sires.

Mike

FiftyYearsPlus
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Postby FiftyYearsPlus » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:03 am

Let me suggest Dehere. He does well with Raise A Native family mares and has been forgotten since being sent to the other hemisphere.
Werk ranks this mating an A, +489%. From an AEI perspective, at 2.10, he ranks equal to Forestry for a fraction of the price.
Good luck.

casper10
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Postby casper10 » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:24 am

I am sending Thunder Reason to Alphabet Soup and Pleasant Laur to Artie Schiller. If you are breeding to race, Alphabet Soup is ridiculously priced at $10k.

I appreciated all the posts on my two mares.

Douglas Brown
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Alphabet Soup's stud fee?

Postby Douglas Brown » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:53 pm

Casper wrote: [/quote]If you are breeding to race, Alphabet Soup is ridiculously priced at $10k. [quote]

I thought Alphabet Soup was $15,000 this year. Has he dropped to $10,000?

casper10
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Postby casper10 » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:57 pm

Adena appeared to of done an audible after their initial settings.

Timber
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Postby Timber » Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:26 pm

Consider Pleasant Tap

casper10
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Postby casper10 » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:47 am

I think $15k is still a great price for Alphabet Soup if you are patient and are breeding to race. His AEI is 1.68 vs a CI of 1.45. His sales figures and lack of good 2-year olds over the years hurt him.