Osidy
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geowarrior
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erins isle
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Interesting inbreeding-pattern on ND, Bold Ruler, Bull Page:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/osidy
What does our Highpriest of the Phalaris-line-#-counters say?
http://www.pedigreequery.com/osidy
What does our Highpriest of the Phalaris-line-#-counters say?
Breeding Horses in Germany
Parlo:
Thanks for the observation on Osidy's pedigree.
Are ther minimum standards of soundness or a clean record of no medications before a stallion may stand in Germany? As opposed to our standard of: "We are selective breeders and restrict our matings to only those that have a checkbook"
How long has Seattle Dancer been in Germany?
Thanks for the observation on Osidy's pedigree.
Are ther minimum standards of soundness or a clean record of no medications before a stallion may stand in Germany? As opposed to our standard of: "We are selective breeders and restrict our matings to only those that have a checkbook"
How long has Seattle Dancer been in Germany?
"parlo"]Interesting inbreeding-pattern on ND, Bold Ruler, Bull Page:
Trying to be more pedigree savvy here...what [img]exactly[/img] makes this pedigree interesting? Are you referring to the sires inbred to, or the positions they hold in the pedigree, or both?
Thanks
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@Toccet02: Yes, it's the quite similar position of the named horses in the pedigree, I found remarkable.
@hpkingjr: There are some "burocratic" breeding-regulations a horse must fulfill to become an "appointed sire" - that means: the breeder of the sire's offspring will get "breeder premiums" on prize-money won. These regulations are:
a) a handicap-rating of at least 110 IC and at least one placing in a pattern-race (G1-GIII) or a rating of 108 IC and a win in a group-race.
b) the above mentioned rating should be reached as a 3yo or older and should not be optainted only in 2yo-races.
c) the horse must be free of obvious conformational faults like monochide, parrot jaw/mouth (so monochides like Lyphard or Caerleon or Great Nephew wouldn't have been sires in GER!).
d) no medication with Lasix during his race-career (that's why f. e. Sabiango stands at France and not in GER).
Surprisingly: inspite of these rules Perugino was a sire in GER for a few years (winner of his 2yo-maiden in his only outing on the track) - and he sired Banyumanik - sire in GER - and Next Gina, a German Oaks winner and half-sister to German Derby winner Next Desert.
Seattle Dancer had his first season at stud in GER in 2003. The 3yo of 2007 are his first generation bred in GER after return from Japan.
Seattle Dancer had less than 8 horses in GER before his 2004-generation (all imported), but he had 2 winners of 3 classics out of them (Rose of Zollern, D1, and Que Belle, D1, DO). Que Belle was later sold to US and Rose of Zollern to GB (Mrs. Rausing)
@hpkingjr: There are some "burocratic" breeding-regulations a horse must fulfill to become an "appointed sire" - that means: the breeder of the sire's offspring will get "breeder premiums" on prize-money won. These regulations are:
a) a handicap-rating of at least 110 IC and at least one placing in a pattern-race (G1-GIII) or a rating of 108 IC and a win in a group-race.
b) the above mentioned rating should be reached as a 3yo or older and should not be optainted only in 2yo-races.
c) the horse must be free of obvious conformational faults like monochide, parrot jaw/mouth (so monochides like Lyphard or Caerleon or Great Nephew wouldn't have been sires in GER!).
d) no medication with Lasix during his race-career (that's why f. e. Sabiango stands at France and not in GER).
Surprisingly: inspite of these rules Perugino was a sire in GER for a few years (winner of his 2yo-maiden in his only outing on the track) - and he sired Banyumanik - sire in GER - and Next Gina, a German Oaks winner and half-sister to German Derby winner Next Desert.
Seattle Dancer had his first season at stud in GER in 2003. The 3yo of 2007 are his first generation bred in GER after return from Japan.
Seattle Dancer had less than 8 horses in GER before his 2004-generation (all imported), but he had 2 winners of 3 classics out of them (Rose of Zollern, D1, and Que Belle, D1, DO). Que Belle was later sold to US and Rose of Zollern to GB (Mrs. Rausing)
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CA Michael
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I saw Osidy last week at Spendthrift along with Don't Get Even and Teton Forest. Typical strong Storm Cat physique, knees aren't perfect but better than most, toes out considerably. As a turf specialist I wouldn't expect him to draw a lot of commercial breeders.
Don't Get Even....
Teton Forest was another story. I liked him much more and booked two mares to him. Beautiful hip and shoulder, good bone. He was very fast and was able to withstand several years of Baffertism.
Mr. Hughes certainly has spent a fortune in refurbishing Spendthrift Farm. The fencing is all new and most barns have been restored to their initial quality. It was a bit eerie walking through the U-shaped stallion barn and seeing the tarnished name plates which have withstood the years of feast and famine at Spendthrift. Swaps, Never Bend, Caro, Prince John, Raise a Native, Fleet Nasrullah, *Gallant Man, *Royal Charger, Seattle Slew, J.O. Tobin, Sham, Exclusive Native, etc. are not only memorialized by their name plates, but also in the stallion cemetary.
Don't Get Even....
Teton Forest was another story. I liked him much more and booked two mares to him. Beautiful hip and shoulder, good bone. He was very fast and was able to withstand several years of Baffertism.
Mr. Hughes certainly has spent a fortune in refurbishing Spendthrift Farm. The fencing is all new and most barns have been restored to their initial quality. It was a bit eerie walking through the U-shaped stallion barn and seeing the tarnished name plates which have withstood the years of feast and famine at Spendthrift. Swaps, Never Bend, Caro, Prince John, Raise a Native, Fleet Nasrullah, *Gallant Man, *Royal Charger, Seattle Slew, J.O. Tobin, Sham, Exclusive Native, etc. are not only memorialized by their name plates, but also in the stallion cemetary.
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CA Michael
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I saw Osidy last week at Spendthrift along with Don't Get Even and Teton Forest. Typical strong Storm Cat physique, knees aren't perfect but better than most, toes out considerably. As a turf specialist I wouldn't expect him to draw a lot of commercial breeders.
Don't Get Even....
Teton Forest was another story. I liked him much more and booked two mares to him. Beautiful hip and shoulder, good bone. He was very fast and was able to withstand several years of Baffertism.
Mr. Hughes certainly has spent a fortune in refurbishing Spendthrift Farm. The fencing is all new and most barns have been restored to their initial quality. It was a bit eerie walking through the U-shaped stallion barn and seeing the tarnished name plates which have withstood the years of feast and famine at Spendthrift. Swaps, Never Bend, Caro, Prince John, Raise a Native, Fleet Nasrullah, *Gallant Man, *Royal Charger, Seattle Slew, J.O. Tobin, Sham, Exclusive Native, etc. are not only memorialized by their name plates, but also in the stallion cemetary.
Don't Get Even....
Teton Forest was another story. I liked him much more and booked two mares to him. Beautiful hip and shoulder, good bone. He was very fast and was able to withstand several years of Baffertism.
Mr. Hughes certainly has spent a fortune in refurbishing Spendthrift Farm. The fencing is all new and most barns have been restored to their initial quality. It was a bit eerie walking through the U-shaped stallion barn and seeing the tarnished name plates which have withstood the years of feast and famine at Spendthrift. Swaps, Never Bend, Caro, Prince John, Raise a Native, Fleet Nasrullah, *Gallant Man, *Royal Charger, Seattle Slew, J.O. Tobin, Sham, Exclusive Native, etc. are not only memorialized by their name plates, but also in the stallion cemetary.
CA Michael wrote:Mr. Hughes certainly has spent a fortune in refurbishing Spendthrift Farm. The fencing is all new and most barns have been restored to their initial quality. It was a bit eerie walking through the U-shaped stallion barn and seeing the tarnished name plates which have withstood the years of feast and famine at Spendthrift. Swaps, Never Bend, Caro, Prince John, Raise a Native, Fleet Nasrullah, *Gallant Man, *Royal Charger, Seattle Slew, J.O. Tobin, Sham, Exclusive Native, etc. are not only memorialized by their name plates, but also in the stallion cemetary.
I know what you mean. I was there a few years ago BH (before Hughes) with a friend who used to work there in its heyday. He had a look on his face that I imagine old warriors have when they visit battlefields as tourists.
It's not what it used to be even under Hughes.