Rokeby Forever wrote:I didn't say Fu Peg was a success....I said he was "significant."
And showing your desire to be a troll by selective reading and incomprehension.
It would behoove you to pay attention to the FULL sentence, comprehend all parts of it and comment accordingly instead of picking one word and flipping it to start a fight.
Let me refresh your memory: "Significant american classic winner turned sire". That means a horse who wins the classic and goes on to achieve success as a sire, as demonstrated by the examples cited: A.P. Indy, Unbridled, Pine Bluff, Summer Squall. Not just a horse that wins a classic and goes to stud, regardless of stud fee. Most people with a brain know money doesn't immediately equate to quality. So you think F.U. Peg is a significant sire just because he gets 100k per foal and is bred to everything this side of a donkey? You really think he is the same kind of sire as A.P. Indy and Unbridled?
No, I do not "differentiate when I used the term "significant" re: Thunder Gulch, I even said he was not a bad sire. I just said most breeders don't like a female heavy sex bias and that if you breed to him, pray for a mare. From personal experience with clients, that is a knock against him. He's going to make a very significant Broodmare sire, though.
And count me in the group who contends Sunday Silence would have been just another $10k bay stallion in Kentucky if he'd stayed here. He would never have achieved the level of success here that he had in Japan. Zero interest from breeders here, a mare base completely different to Japan, different racing surfaces and way too much competition for the mare level he would have had to start at. He may well have worked his way up to the elite, but he would not have been the superstar stud he was in Japan.
And what relevance does Cat Thief have?