It's Rok and I against the WORLD!!!

Maven · Postby **Maven** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:26 pm

She was a flash in the pan but I have good info stating it wasn't her fault. Her weanling looks FANTASTIC and is by the underrated Langfuhr. I thought that was a brave breeding on their part (commercially speaking).

Sam · Postby **Sam** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:28 pm

Maven wrote:Essence of Dubai has some of the best foals i've seen in Florida this past year.

It amuses me anytime I see EoD listed amoungst his best, especially from Roke when he's the one most likely to harp on those UAE gimme races. Were it not for those UAE races, would he even have over a million in earnings?

EoD was a fraud as a racehorse and is on his way to being a fraud of a stallion.

Rokeby Forever · Postby **Rokeby Forever** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:29 pm

Monarchos? Jack Dreyfuss (Hobeau) has always taken a shot on young sires - he got Swap Fliparoo out of Exchange Rate's first crop. Throughout the years, he's helped to get a lot of young stallions off the ground.

Maven · Postby **Maven** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:32 pm

Sam wrote:
Maven wrote:Essence of Dubai has some of the best foals i've seen in Florida this past year.

It amuses me anytime I see EoD listed amoungst his best, especially from Roke when he's the one most likely to harp on those UAE gimme races. Were it not for those UAE races, would he even have over a million in earnings?

EoD was a fraud as a racehorse and is on his way to being a fraud of a stallion.

I'd actually agree with this sentiment for the most part. Although, his foals have looked fantastic. His family is interesting but the Erin branch of the Cherokee Rose clan has left something to be desired (for the most part) in producing stallions. Family of Fupeg, Coronado's Quest, Private Terms, etc.

Maven · Postby **Maven** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:33 pm

Rokeby Forever wrote:Monarchos? Jack Dreyfuss (Hobeau) has always taken a shot on young sires - he got Swap Fliparoo out of Exchange Rate's first crop. Throughout the years, he's helped to get a lot of young stallions off the ground.

We bought another Exchange Rate this past week. That's 3 Exchange Rate fillies... all 2 yo's for us. I think we're going to sell one though. I really like this new one though. She's a Florida bred but we have her at CD.

Rokeby Forever · Postby **Rokeby Forever** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:36 pm

Essence of Dubai has a really nice female family.

Maven · Postby **Maven** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:39 pm

Rokeby Forever wrote:Essence of Dubai has a really nice female family.

It is and it's not. It's one of those branches of a VERY good and influential bluehen that gets real hot and then real cold. His dam was a pretty good filly (overrated though in my opinion).

This direct branch (Erin) is responsible for obvious standouts Ruffian, Coronado's Quest, Fusaichi Pegasus, etc, but they've been bred to the best and given every chance. There's a ton of mediocre horses in it to show for it.

Rokeby Forever · Postby **Rokeby Forever** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:43 pm

Whenever I see Mr Leader in a dam on top of her female family, I pop a chubby...what can I say?

Maven · Postby **Maven** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:45 pm

It's funny you mention him, I love Mr. Leader and i'm starting to grow an affection (infection maybe :wink:

) for Doc's Leader on the distaff side.

Rokeby Forever · Postby **Rokeby Forever** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:51 pm

Mr Leader? He's Hail To Reason...and one of the most underappreciated sires of all time.

Doc's Leader - you and your Lady Be Good. LOL!

Maven · Postby **Maven** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:57 pm

That's not the ONLY reason! He's got Mr. Leader on top, Nodouble on the bottom, as well as that rare line to Lady Be Good, he's tail-female to the great bluehen Escutcheon and has Round Table/Feola also in the mix. What's there not to like? In all honesty, you're starting to see his name pop up on some good horses. He's one I think people on a budget should look for.

Rokeby Forever · Postby **Rokeby Forever** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:04 pm

I totally agree, Maven - but be real. You seeing Lady Be Good is like my seeing Hail To Reason/Buckpasser - everyone's got their own aphrodisiacs. LOL!

Maven · Postby **Maven** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:14 pm

Rokeby Forever wrote:Maven, you've always written (to your credit) that Sightseeing was a three year old to be reckoned with....proof that brain cells can exist under a blonde mop.

But why give up on him against Street Sense in this race? This is showtime for the Sightseeing- if he doesn't win this one, I'll concede that he's just not as good as I thought he'd be (barring a legit excuse)....and not as good as Shug thought he'd be, either.

Thought I would quote this just in case someone's finger was getting close to the edit button.

Rokeby Forever · Postby **Rokeby Forever** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:15 pm

I've got only one finger for you right now, Maven!!! Grrr!!!!!!

Move Sightseeing to the turf....it worked for Lure.

Maven · Postby **Maven** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:16 pm

Do what YOU SAID you would if he lost. We're all waiting.